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Even a short stint in prison is a traumatic experience and this guy served 16 years of a life sentence when he was innocent. It broke him and no amount of money could bring him back. This cop is not to blame for his death but the entire justice system and the part of society that didn't want him back regardless.
The cop immediately escalated the encounter. He had hundreds of opportunities where he could have not taken Cure's life.
It's that he didn't pull over instantly. Cops are taught resistance or even slowness to comply is a threat to their authority and merits escalation. If the cop is not completely in control of the situation (or if they feel they aren't), they're taught to take control of it aggressively, regardless of the context of the situation. Resistance is a potential threat to be extinguished quickly, ask questions later.
They're taught to be hyper aggressive cowards.
Here's the full video. Please give it a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok
I once sped past a cop driving in an unmarked car (cruising in the left lane and not passing anyone). She put her lights on and I figured "well I've been caught, no sense in trying to slow all the way down" so I reasonably took like 30 seconds to find a place to pull over, driving at regular traffic speed.
She asked me if I was trying to run... Like, no, I'm just looking for a place to stop that isn't the side of the road.
Cops almost instantly expect you to run or get violent, which causes people to get defensive anyway.
He pulled him over and was going to arrest him for reckless driving. The man began assaulting him. I don't know why this needs explanation, the whole thing was on video. But why don't you go ahead and tell us how you would have handled this, armchair cop.
Here's a TLDW summary for those too lazy to watch the full video of what happened.
Cop driving along. Truck flies by him (he says doing 100, seems about right). Cop catches up to him and flips on lights. Truck keeps doing same speed in fast lane (3 lane road). After a little bit he flips on blinker to get over to middle lane. He stays there for 5-10 seconds then accelerated and gets back in the fast lane. Cop pursues for 30 seconds or so. Truck then pulls over.
Cop surprisingly does not pull his weapon out immediately (most would in this situation). Starts yelling at the driver to get out of the truck as he slowly approaches driver's door. Driver gets out and asks the police officer who he is, tells the police officer that he is Yahweh. Police officer puts hand on man, man aggressively flings officer's hand away. Cop continues yelling at the person to go to the back of the truck and put his hands on the truck. After some more somewhat belligerent talk (in my opinion more drug-addled than threateningly belligerent, the toxicology results will tell) the man complies and goes to the back of the truck and puts his hands on it.
The officer then tells the man to put his hands behind his back. The man refuses, asks why. The officer tells him he's being arrested. The man asks if he has a warrant (?). The officer tells the man that traffic offenses in GA are criminal offenses, and he was driving recklessly. The man continues arguing. The officer warns him that he will be tazed if he doesn't comply. The man continues arguing. The officer tazes the man, who stands still for 5 seconds or so then points up at the sky, then turns around and begins flailing at the officer. The officer attempts to subdue the man, but the man gets the upper hand on the officer and gets him in a choke hold. The officer pulls out a baton and starts whacking the man in the head with it, but it doesn't seem to have any affect. The man, meanwhile, is clearly getting the upper hand in the altercation, bending the officer backward while continuing to choke him and repeating, "Yeah, bitch!" You cannot see the officer pull out his sidearm from the position of the camera but the man goes down and it appears the officer shot him in his left abdomen area. The man continues to rant for a little bit and flail around on the ground. The officer has to keep the man at gunpoint until backup arrives and then tries to assist the EMTs and is clearly distraught at what has happened.
The bottom line is the officer was justified in pulling the man over and ended up acting in self defense. He did not even act as aggressively as some officers would have (having their sidearm already out when exiting their car after the vehicle had appeared to consider fleeing). The toxicology report will almost definitely show the man was loaded up on something, as his behaviour was anything but normal.
Go find some other (more justified) scapegoat to vent your cop hate on. This guy was just doing his job.
I watched the video earlier today. For anyone that has vision impairment: this is an extremely accurate transcription of what happened. Obviously the last two paragraphs are entirely your opinion of the events you described, but the transcription is accurate.
90% of the shit you're talking about here didn't happen. Yahweh??? Give me a break dude.
My name is Yahweh!
Cure: "My name is Ya-weh"
Officer: "I don't care, step to the rear of the vehicle"
Cure: "In the name of who?"
Yeah, he said it
How do you think I know you're full of shit?
I wouldn't have walked out of my vehicle screaming at him to get out of the car, and most departmental policy agrees with me. I wouldn't have tased someone who wasn't behaving aggressively, and almost all use of force continuum guidance in America agrees with me.
These policies are adopted because the ideal outcome was Cure being arrested for reckless driving, his car being impounded, and possibly additional charges for resistance and assault. Instead he was summarily executed for a non-capital crime. If you think people should be executed for speeding, then maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia, because that isn't my America.
What department policy is that? How do you expect to be heard without walking up to the window and jeopardizing your own safety? How does yelling at someone justify assault?
I don't know how you can watch the video in the OP and pretend like he wasn't behaving aggressively...
Yeah that's not what happened. He was shot in self defense after attacking and getting the upper hand on a police officer.
If your strategy for this discussion is to blatantly lie about the events that transpired on camera, then I'm afraid we have nothing further to discuss.
No, he was not "summarily executed", nor was he killed for speeding.
He was PULLED OVER, for speeding and dangerous driving. After such he refused directions, and was aggressive. Despite being used, he decided to go all-in and assault the cop, who he was managing to choke out. Cop pulled a baton and tried to use that but had no success while still getting choked, so finally went for his gun and - again while STILL being assaulted and choked - put a bullet in his attacker.
If he hadn't done so, we'd probably be seeing dashcam footage ending with a dead cop while his attacker took off and was subject of a manhunt.
Even after the shooting, the cop called it in immediately and tried to render aid.
This cop is completely and entirely to blame for his death.