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[-] Naatan 109 points 11 months ago

I really wish my generation was a bit more optimistic. Yeah shit sucks, don't get me wrong. But have you guys seen all of history? This is par for the course. Yeah the challenges are different but every generation had their challenges. And yeah baby boomers definitely had it better than us, but that doesn't mean there's nothing but bad stuff to come. You have to take life with the good and the bad and make the most of it.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 99 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The bad is starting to look more and more like an impending global societal collapse with every passing day though

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 79 points 11 months ago

Yeah I don't know about "par for the course"

What other generation had the threat of scientifically proven ecological collapse looming over them?

[-] HardNut@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Considering science has only gotten robust enough to prove anything like that far more recently than any good examples of ecological collapse, I'd say this parameter is a little arbitrary.

The best example I can think of regarding ecological collapse is during and after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Their climate decreased in temperature, which reduces crop yields, which weakened the empire and encouraged migration from northern Europe, which brought their collapse (plus like 12 other things lol).

In 535AD, during Justinian's reign in the east, the first black plague happened following a supermassive volcano that left the sky covered in ash blocking the sun. This was a massively ecologically damaging period of history and it caused the death of countless plant and animal life, along with the deaths of half the population of the Mediterranean.

It's not like people of this age were taking soil samples and references trends or whatever, but they certainly understood how things were going poorly.

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