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submitted 1 year ago by Echo71Niner@lemm.ee to c/world@lemmy.world

The article accuses Israel of potentially committing war crimes in its conflict with Hamas, focusing on a siege on Gaza, airstrikes harming civilians, and evacuation orders. It criticizes the U.S. for not condemning Israel's actions and emphasizes the need for diplomatic solutions. The piece argues that Israel's approach could backfire politically and suggests that there's no military solution to the conflict. It calls for the U.S. to exercise influence to deter such actions, asserting it's in the interests of both the U.S. and Israel to prevent further civilian casualties and maintain regional stability.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

The land was Palestine before 1948, the natives who had lived there for generations were Palestinians, and their land was simply taken from them. What the fuck do you mean they "started a war"?

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The land was not "Palestine" before. Please read up on the actual history of the area instead of some propaganda blog you found online. The people who founded Israel were also native to the area and lived there for thousands of years.

International forces divided the land because the different groups couldn't get along and one of these reasons was the anti-semitism still quite present in the area and the surrounding countries who exiled Jews who joined, along those from other countries which killed and exiled them during the world wars and before, those who already lived in Israel.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

[...] killed and exiled them during the world wars and before, those who already lived in Israel.

(That entire second paragraph is one sentence, it was hard to figure out a place to start the quote)

Israel didn't exist before the world wars. You've been taught a warped version of history. Please seek unbiased sources.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Congratulations on finding an instance where I wrote "Israel" instead of "that area" because it was easier. Before the speration of Transjordan there was already a Jewish population in that area. The way they were treated and the influx of exiled and fleeing Jews is one of the reasons Israel and Palestine were created in the first place.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can't go with argument what was sometime in the past to apply it today, otherwise everyone would just find something that happened earlier and conflict would never stop. It has to be solved with today's borders regardless if it's loss for either or both sides unless they both agree upon change.

[-] avater@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and even before that it was owned bei Romans, Byzantine and yes the Isrealis.

you really need to read a book, after the UN gave the land to Isreael there were three wars against Israel started from the surrounding countries and they won them all and took some land in return for their losses.

how would you react if your country is at war the second it is established?

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