42
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] RotaryKeyboard@lemmy.ninja 21 points 10 months ago

Star Trek celebrates the diversity of humanity. The extremes of genetic engineering and (on the other side of the spectrum, perhaps) the Borg are symbolic of the corruption of that diversity.

For an in-universe explanation, I suppose you could just look at the degree to which cybernetics are tolerated. Rutherford-level cybernetics? No problem! Borg Queen-level cybernetics? Helm, warp nine, full reverse!

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

The Bynar are very tied in like the borg but it is all willing and for the most part they retain individuality at least down to the couples level.

Only reason the Borge are hated is the forced joining that removes individuality. The federation likely has no issue with the whole cyborg part.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago

I would argue the bynars are not doing it voluntarily either though. According to phlox in ENT, right after birth a surgeon removes a certain part of the newborn‘s brain, replacing and connecting it with their central computer.

And I would argue a literal newborn cannot give consent to this. The only difference to the Borg appears to be the larger degree of individuality, though that seems questionable too, considering how interlinked they are in the TNG episode.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Good points, however the federation still works with them...

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

True, i suppose the fact they only enhance their own species helps as well in making them palatable to the federation species.

[-] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Prime directive. The Federation can apply such ideals to their own citizens and to foreigners who ask for help, but not to foreign citizens who don't ask. The Borg try to assimilate Federation citizens, so the Federation has a valid cassus belli for war. The Bynars aren't attacking any other species, so the prime directive doesn't apply.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Generally even ex-Borg, like Seven of Nine, aren’t disliked or mistrusted because of their remaining cybernetic implants. It’s almost always about their connection too, and implied complicity in, horrors and genocide.

this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2023
42 points (95.7% liked)

Star Trek

10416 readers
140 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
05-23 DSC 5x09 "Lagrange Point"
05-30 DSC 5x10 "Life, Itself"
07-01 PRO S2 Index
10-24 LD 5x01 TBA
10-24 LD 5x02 TBA

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Lower Decks (2024-10-24)

Strange New Worlds (2025)

Section 31 (2025)

In Development

Starfleet Academy

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.


Allied Discord Server


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS