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France orders ban on all pro-Palestinian protests
(www.politico.eu)
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If it were truly about "unrest", they'd ban demonstrations in support of Israel also. This is just the government telling people what opinions they're allowed to express.
Demonstrations in support of Israel have not (yet) ended up in burning stuff in the street.
France doesn't have a "free speech" clause before the "be civil" clause. In the US you can be an ass in the name of free speech, in France you can be civil or shut up.
Support of Israel is understandable in this context considering the innocent people that were killed. And I don't think that Palestine supporters would attack people demonstrating support of Israel.
What I'm sure of though is that far-right/nazi movements will attack Palestine supporters, probably under cover. We call it "casseurs", people who are here to break things appart to undermine the event's credibility. Palestine support is almost left-party only in France. The goal of the far-right is to make us leftists look like violent terrorists.
On the other hand, letting this happen would weaken Macron's government image. They can't afford another episode of violence, even if it would weaken the left, it would much certainly enforce the far-right much more.
So in the end, yeah fuck that.
Innocent people are actively being killed in Gaza as we speak.
A leftwing event being attacked shouldn't undermine the legitimacy of the left. A false flag attack on a pro-Israel demonstration might though.
Innocent people are innocent people. You cannot cherry pick who deserves human rights and who doesn’t.
The fact that the murderer state of Israel killed and continues to kill innocent people is not an excuse for the barbarism we’ve witnessed.
I will always stand with Palestine, but certainly not for the terrorist Hamas.
Yes, and by saying supporting Israel was understandable and thus wouldn't be banned, the implication was that supporting Palestine was not understandable. No one is holding pro-Hamas rallies in France, they're holding pro-Palestine rallies.
I absolutely never said that. The “thus” is entirely yours. I never talked about pro-hamas rallies.
I said that the Macron’s government fears that pro-Palestine rallies degenerate into violent riots.
I also never said I agree with the interdiction, as I’m ready to fight far-right-wingers. Always have been.