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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If I was in charge, I'd make some changes to the job process

  • you must post the salary
  • if you post a job and it's determined there was no intent to fill the role, you must pay every applicant a year's salary. Whistleblowers also get a payout.
  • making the applicant fill out a form that duplicates information on the resume (eg: name, phone) is illegal.
  • asking for the applicant's address is illegal. They were going to use this for racism. You can ask about time zone and willingness to commute to the office
  • employers must pay workers for their commute at their normal hourly rate.
  • Ghosting an applicant (no response without a rejection or hire for a month) results in a fine. Pay the applicant 3 months salary.

All other fines now scale with wealth of the perpetrator

[–] chlofie@eviltoast.org 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I agree that an address shouldn’t be necessary for a job application aside from a possible way to contact if email or phone aren’t available. I’m just confused how an address can be used to be racist? This isn’t the 1960’s. There’s no more segregation and people can live wherever they afford.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This isn’t the 1960’s. There’s no more segregation and people can live wherever they afford.

Redlining is less of a thing, but there are still areas that are predominantly populated by different ethnic groups. Furthermore, the consequences of housing segregation are still felt today. It's not like the people who were forced to live in "undesirable" neighborhoods in the 1960s got reshuffled around.

To say "there's no more segregation" is naive.

And even furthermore, it opens the door for unfair judgements like "oh they live in a bad neighborhood", which might not be first order racist, but are still undesirable. There's no need for it. Only unfair things can come from the information.

[–] chlofie@eviltoast.org 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Redlining and segregation are illegal and if you come across an instance of it should be reported. Breaking everything down to racism is naive and not helping move things away from focusing on what actually keeps people segregated, like socioeconomic status.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Things being illegal doesn't mean they don't happen. And, again, if people were redlined in 1960 and now a neighborhood is mostly black, that didn't magically go away in 2026. The consequences are lasting.

Furthermore, as an individual, fighting more powerful institutions (eg: banks, the government) is not trivial. Shrugging it off with "you should report is" is technically true, but not a complete solution nor especially practical.

Breaking everything down to racism is naive

Well that's not what's happening in this discussion, so okay

focusing on what actually keeps people segregated, like socioeconomic status.

Deeply tied into race, historically and presently.

Regardless, the point stands that there's few to no good reasons for an employer to know your address during the application process, and a lot of bad ones.

[–] chlofie@eviltoast.org 3 points 16 hours ago

I agree with the way you stated your last point. Hiring should be based on knowledge, aptitude, and/or effort. Thanks for the discussion