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Who the fuck enrolls in an educational course, if they wish to skip learning?
Oh, you'd be surprised.
I used to teach english for non native speakers, and after chatgpt's debut in 2023, almost every single essay, homework, and presentation was entirely done with LLMs. We had to demand handwritten essays, and presentations had to be done in the classroom (we gave the theme, they worked out a presentation, and then presented it the same day without leaving the class).
And even then, some students would ask to go to the bathroom, use their phones, memorize a whole ass paragraph from chatgpt and then come inside class to write it down.
As all the others say, they want the cert and the status that comes with the cert.
It's part of the reason everyone needs three years experience for an entry level job, a good student fresh out of education is worth little but then worth a lot if they learn fast. A bad student fresh out of education won't learn at all and will be an active detriment, if only because they're taking a seat someone better could take.
People who use AI for everything aren't guaranteed to be bad students, but bad students probably will use AI for everything. The trick will be figuring out the difference.
Yeah, ultimately I think the root of the problem is how much HR is part of hiring and selection processes despite not really knowing how to evaluate the specific skills required to do the job. If skills were being evaluated rather than resumes and interview skills, then cheating your way to a degree would be pointless.
I know you want the business owners to work harder but I have a question for you:
How much do you wanna work for an interview? I applied to 50 places, I would quit society and become a hermit if I had to take an exam (evaluation whatever you wanna call it) for each one.
What if we had a place we can attend where we prove skills and they give us a paper which makes us skip this "skill evaluation" you are talking about?
Maybe some sort of paid interview where actual work is done. Like give them a real task to complete to demonstrate their ability to do that task (and then go over it with them to see if they know what is going on with it to rule out using an AI to do something they don't understand).
Or have technical people handle the technical parts of the interview, people that will recognize when someone gives an answer to a problem that isn't on the answer key but is actually the best answer they've seen for that question. I bet there's tons of stories where some clueless HR person rejected someone because they were smarter than the answer key but the HR person had no idea and just marked them wrong. Except the stories don't get told because neither party has enough information to realize just how idiotic the scenario was.
Hmm wonder what we can call it? Maybe a thesis? Practical course in XXX?
We can call the place where they hold this a university (universitas from Latin) maybe?
Increasingly higher ed in america is being treated as a degree mill, where students are "customers" and the degree is a "product."
It's disgusting, but it's a natural consequence of a commodified education system in which colleges and universities are treated as businesses.
I personally think we need to cut out the parasitic administrators and let the department faculty run the schools like co-ops, and possibly hire out the few administrative tasks that are actually necessary.
That would be far cheaper than paying these enormous administrative salaries, so it could lower tuition while increasing faculty pay.
But has anyone considered those poor shareholders?
We also need to address companies gutting any internal training programs and then gate keeping jobs that really have no need for a college degree behind a requirement for any bachelor's degree at all to be eligible for consideration. There's way too many jobs that that in my father's time had a 6 month probation period where they taught you the basics of a trade, where now they just contract college grads and hope a BA means they can figure it out on their own, in lieu of having proper in house training programs.
There are a lot of people who don't really have any need for, or even interest in, a higher education who are going just because it's become the bare minimum to get an okay job through this inflation of requirements for entry level positions. They get saddled with debt they don't need (and can likely I'll afford), while the curriculum gets dumbed down for everyone, in order to keep the schools' numbers looking good.
To be clear, this isn't a knock on any of these folks. I just think there need to be more viable routes to a career with a living wage for people who don't want to go to university. Maybe they come back later in life, maybe they don't, but they should still be able to find a job that affords them a dignified life.
Wools that just want the cert
The mentally bankrupt
Just for the cert or whatever at the end.
most people hate learning. because it's difficult and requires effort and time.
cheating is easy. you get results with less time or effort.