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[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

You are deliberately talking over them. They’re clearly not claiming that all migrants are illiterate or uneducated or ill-prepared for work in Europe. They’re arguing that many are, and those migrants exacerbate our problems. They certainly don’t solve them.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works -2 points 8 months ago

Define many. What percentage are illiterate?

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

It depends on the nation. The UN collects data. Afghanistan is 62.7% illiterate, for example. Further, Almost all refugees to Denmark have zero Danish language reading and writing skills. They must learn all of these. Slightly more (but shockingly few) have any English reading and writing skills.

Surely it isn't surprising to you that refugees have limited European language skills?

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago
[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago
[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

refugee /ˌrɛfjʊˈdʒiː/ noun

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

Emigrating is a choice. Fleeing because you helped translate is not.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

That definition of a refugee is perfectly compatible with the definition of a an immigrant. As per the definition, all refugees are immigrants. Not all immigrants are refugees.

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