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Who the fuck still does holidays with their MAGA relatives?
The many people that can't afford living out of their parents' basement
Can't afford moving out of it?
Yeah, outside of their parents' basement
To "live out of" can mean to live in, that's what confused them
Most healthy members of society dude 😭
Right? When my extended family gets together there are like 40 of us. I might try to avoid the ones that are MAGA, or at least avoid talking politics with them, but I’m not gonna refuse to go to Christmas or Thanksgiving just because my chuddy uncle is going to be there. I’ll just take a walk with the other queer cousins and get a little toasted before dinner
Must be nice for only some of them to be MAGA.
When they're all MAGA, though, sometimes it's best to just not go.
Aww the cousin walk <3
My family extended to just 1st cousins is more than 80 people. Every single last one full maga Christo-fascists. Not worth being around.
Yeah, super healthy to go hang out with people who want people like you bashished from society because of who you want to love 🙄
How "healthy" it is to attend holiday gatherings with your family depends entirely on your family's chud ratio.
Yes, healthy members of society spend time with their pedophile supporting extending family. Right.
I am not weak enough to give up on someone. Every meeting is a chance to educate them
Our families invite process is fairly simple. If you can't last family time during holiday without talking politics, you aren't invited. I think that's a fairly healthy ask. I think only one person was excluded from family planning/gathering due to it, but thankfully the feeling was mutual because they couldn't isolate their political side from their actual personality and as such didn't want to be in an environment where they couldn't talk politics anyway.
So your approach is just not talking about the problems? Very healthy. /s
The "see no evil, speak no evil" crowd aren't much help to the downtrodden. /li
Not conservative, not "republican": MAGA.
My MAGA relatives are some of the worst human beings I've met. Hateful, loud, dumb bigots that seem unable to act like a decent human being for more than a few minutes at a time. I've heard the shit they've let slip out and they meant (and mean) every word.
They're not welcome in my home and I am sure as shit am not wasting my time on them.
I don't disagree with your point overall, but there do seem to be plenty of kids that grow up despising their conservative parents' positions on politics. The question of whether they even want to spend time with their conservative family even implies this.
It's also possible that they will be the last person they'd listen to, since conservative families can have a lot of contempt for each other and care more about the hierarchy than who is right.
But that said, I fully agree that just cutting off people for being awful ends to driving them into the arms of other awful people. And if there's a lot of it, it can do things like get Trump elected because they are tired of being treated like the bad guys but get galvanized instead of discouraged.
It's also the goal of the divide and conquer strategy the ruling class is using to make us easier to manage.
I'm fully convinced that the "banish them!" strategies from the 2010 era internet is what got us Trump. I've personally known multiple crazies in the US back then that told me they went from Democrats to trump because of it. Yes, they were crazies, but they wouldn't have gone Trump if they were able to be crazies amongst us.
That's the weird thing. There's millions of people who would never hurt anybody up close and personal, but happy to keep hurting people far away by their choices. The same disconnect often applies to the negative consequences that hit them.
In those cases, if they're family, and you're used to seeing them, you can find yourself having superficially friendly interactions, they will be genuinely happy to see you, etc... And they will vote for death camps without a single pang of conscience because it seems like the normal thing they've always done.
I don't think they're the majority, but they're certainly numerous enough to be the primary enablers of a fascist takeover.
The ‘white moderate’
—Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
Yep... and the only way we de-normalize it is to quit passively allowing it.
I get dragged with. Really debating putting my foot down on the Mega church visit this Christmas though. Such a vile place.
If you want to go to a church on Christmas, you should go to a legitimately Christian church. Regardless of whether you want to go to church on Christmas, you should avoid Christofascist churches. Christofascism is antithetical to Christianity.
Around here we only believe in white supply side jebus.
I want to see my sister and my niece. Other family shows up too, kinda hard to control that
a small edible (or giant bongrip) beforehand should do the trick
I've barely spoken to most of my family for two years. It's really quiet.