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Your example of the calamity of the fly and spider can be applied broadly to other scenarios like strip mining. Same with you can’t save them all. You are being hypocritical.
Dude, cats don’t know if you just keep them inside. You are actively choosing to hurt animals around you, that’s callous and selfish. Cats aren’t more important than other animals (I’d argue that non-native cats are lesser than native local animals).
Your argument is basically you bending logic, facts, etc to suit your point of view. Don’t be so entrenched.
Anyway, this is my last reply because you are behaving irrationally. It’s not that you won, it’s that I don’t care about someone who is so callous to animals.
That's what you think about your cats. I've had a dozen cats over the past 60 years, about 4 of them "inside only." In my experience, they most definitely know. The persian who wasn't really possible to let outside most definitely responded to things like flea-dipping, us not being home on time to feed him, etc. Overall, I see much more happiness and friendly disposition in the outdoor cats, but you do you. Box trained dogs "don't know any better" either, but does that really make keeping your big dog in a box 90% of its life O.K.?
Is that any worse than passively choosing to support the abuse that takes place in chicken factories? I can't stand modern chicken meat because it's disgustingly bloated, flaccid and flavorless - then think about how that chicken was raised, bred for fast growth and pumped with hormones to grow faster. If you ever have the stones, go visit a chicken factory and look inside one of the sheds - but wear a respirator, I wouldn't want you hurt by the toxic air.
On the greater scale, the (very few) animals around me that are getting hurt by our cat are out there in the wild, getting eaten by all kinds of other wild creatures in their environment. Just tonight, I encountered a large skink in the yard - they're in the yard now, far from the house, because we have a cat that spends his time mostly in and near the house the skinks don't take up residence in the living room anymore (like they did when we first moved in). They're not all dead, they're just living in places more protected from our (and our neighbors') cats.
Your argument is basically you bending logic, facts, etc to suit your point of view. Don’t be so entrenched.
Anyway, this is my last reply because you are behaving irrationally. It’s not that you won, it’s that I don’t care about someone who is so callous to farm animals.