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[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. Im saying that we are trapped in an illusion of choice.

True, if you are a slave and always will be, I guess the master that doesn't hit me would be the better one. But we weren't always slaves. FDR wasn't that long ago.

I'm not saying "do nothing", YOU are

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the DSA movement is taking that illusion and attempting to effect the change we seek, an inch at a time.

And that's the only way progress happens right now unless you're willing to flip the table society rests upon.

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But as we have seen it does not work.

People have been preaching incremental voting as long as trickle down economics and it all leads here.

We need to go back to the New Deal era of policies and have a party that stands for those principles

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you propose as the next step?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Hm. Crickets. Figures.

[–] DjangoFett@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And DSA is the first incremental step back towards that. You form a third party and see how far you get without Citizens United money.

It is a horseshit sandwich, but it's what we've got right now. Perfect can't be the enemy of good, especially right now.

Enemy of my enemy and all, nahmean?

Edit: more accurately, the more we can do to frustrate the actual evil, the more time we ultimately have to find the real solution. Again, it isn't perfect, but its the solution we currently have.

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Right. So we don't have to vote for neoliberals.

[–] Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

If we actually get any say with the Democrats, I don't believe we do, the leadership needs to change and rules need to be in place for how the party is funded but the government is so compromised I'm not sure where we would have to start. We have ended up a feral country, and even our economic relationship with the rest of the world has changed forever.

The fascists are here and have autonomous killing drones and are part of the military now so I'm not too sure.