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Mental health professionals rarely allow you to talk about the socioeconomic factors too
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If your therapist doesn't "allow" you to talk about the systemic problems with capitalism, then you should find a new therapist asap
Yea I feel like that criticism is coming from people who have never been to therapy and want to convince themselves its beneath them
It's not beneath me, I just don't see how it will help when all my problems are based off my limited resources or societal issues that won't change. What are they going to do for me besides teach me ways to cope? I'm already doing that. If I'm paying for it I want the end result to be happiness, not just coping. If some therapist showed up and offered me a freebie I might try it out but I'm not paying for it unless someone can convince me I'm wrong in my stance.
Maybe you're right, but all the people passing around the memes about therapists trying to somehow cover for society's failings, as if they're part of the Illuminati, are still just making stuff up
They obviously aren't part of the "illuminati", but just as obviously are both invested and well-positioned in that society. Their job is to help integrate you. It's not a conspiracy, and honestly not particularly complex.
That theory sounds good, and you're right that it's simple to understand, but in reality it doesn't hold water. Everyone I know who goes to therapy, reports that their therapist is totally open to saying that the world is just fucked up, and that's a big part of the problem, and putting blame on economic or political sources. So this idea that therapists direct away from that, regardless of the cause, just seems to me to be a total falsehood propagated by people who haven't even spoken to therapists. Its totally mythological as far as I can tell.
I don't see how this contradicts anything I said. Ascribing societal failings to the world just being fucked up is actually a pretty good example to my point. The therapist is there explicitly to help make changes in an individual so they can better participate in society. Their position has no ability to facilitate systemic change even if that happens to be their intention. No therapist is going to help you self-actualize into the best revolutionary you can be, how could they?
This entire post and thread is about how therapists won't mention capitalism and the housing crisis and instead say that it's something like depression or a personality disorder that causes someone to feel bad or suicidal. Do you think this claim is true or not? What I am saying directly contradicts that.
We have pretty different perceptions of this entire post and thread then. I read the text in the image specifically as a medical professional lamenting that their position pushes them to diagnose a disorder in the individual rather than validate their difficult and unpleasant perceptions of the systems they're operating in. Acknowledging someone's experience is well within the scope of therapy, but at the end of the day they can only facilitate change in the individual not the society. It will never say in the patient notes "this guy seems fine, society's what's fucked up!" because... That's in no way therapeutic and has nothing to do with a therapists job. I still don't really see the contradiction, but this is starting to feel more like goal-oriented litigation than a nuanced discussion so I'm going to wish you well and move on. Have a nice day, fellow poster :)
I honestly can't tell if you're trying to be non-confrontational, but nothing about this entire interaction seemed kind of you. If you really have the intent to be nice to people online, and you really want them to be well, I advise you to reconsider how you act.
First you tell me I'm wrong about therapists, that the truth is "honestly not particularly complex", act condescending by saying "obviously" this and that. And then when I try to be nuanced about what we're talking about, you ironically complain that this isn't a "nuanced discussion", then cut the discussion short.....
So I don't really appreciate you making me out to be the confrontational one, when you basically came in here, implied I'm a simpleton, and left as soon as I tried to explain myself.
I'm very sorry to have made you feel like a simpleton, and could not be more genuine in my hope you have a nice day. Think the hyperbolic conflation of questioning a therapists role in society with seeing them as part of an illuminati conspiracy set a difficult tone. I'm also getting kinda blown up in another thread right now. If there's something else you'd like to say, by all means feel free
No no you're good. I appreciate the kindness. I also try to be kind to those who are kind, which is why I bothered to be persnickety about tone in the first place, because it did seem like you had good intentions.