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[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If you're talking about the USA, then famines would basically have to be involved. We're talking about a near-collapse of the system, where a significant portion of the proletariat is either facing death or has lost people close to them.

And I'm not talking about some minor famine here. I mean something on the scale of Wyoming just ceasing to exist because everyone starved to death.

I wish I was joking but thats kind of my gut feeling...Anything short of systemic collapse wont be enough.

So yeah it still can get much worse and it probably will. Really hope im wrong.

But im sleep deprived so maybe im just completely off.

EDIT Now, of course, if Trump really runs for a third term and declares himself president for life....that could speed things up. I just don't see most Americans waging a people's war until the situation gets completely and utterly fucked up.

I think we are in the last days of Rome but its not burning....yet.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I want to say that Engels predicted that Americans would radicalize once it became impossible for large numbers of them to purchase a house / land. We’re nearing that point. (Although some are able to immigrate to other countries and drive up property values there.) Faith in “our democracy” is lower than it’s been in decades (I think), inequality is at depression levels, polarization is at civil war levels, we are hopefully nearing another 2020-style explosion. Doing something drastic, like canceling the next presidential election, could provoke a civil war to “restore democracy” that would hopefully turn into a communist revolution 😈

But large portions of the bourgeoisie really have to feel like they’re fucked without trump in order for them to cancel elections. My guess is that they’re still okay with handing the hot potato (surrendering to Iran, paying them $200 billion) over to the democrats.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

something on the scale of Wyoming

I mean Wyoming has just under 600,000 people... wasn't COVID-19 more than that and people just didn't care?

Like bourgeois class solidarity is such a powerful force in this country that it even overpowers fears for individuals' own safety AmeriKKKa

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I picked Wyoming cause its small but if you want you can replace it with California. Alright fuck it . Lets say Trump Nukes Los Angeles. Its not really about it being as bad or worse than COVID but a undeniably proof of the decay of the Empire. People need to see and feel it. .... and accept it.

Honestly? I think there's a significant portion of the population in AmeriKKKa who are so utterly convinced of the security of Empire and self-centered that it would literally have to happen to them, not their families or friends, to them personally, to even begin to change. And only for a fraction of a second before they're vaporized.

IMO the existence of this population is something anti-imperialists in AmeriKKKa have to "budget for". And I really don't know what to do ☹️.