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the other day a tanky said a sentence constructed like that to me too, while literally arguing for me to join his authoritarian group
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2026
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counterfactuals can't be proven. that's the only fact that matters when the actually baseless claim that it would be worse without a few people buying beans is raised.
If it was only a few people you wouldn't be getting so annoyed about them existing.
The real reason everyone hates vegans is that, deep down, we all know they're right.
I don't hate vegans and I'm not annoyed at them existing. you are reading something I haven't written
I don't believe you.
I'm the authority on my own feelings.
And anyone who believes you is unfortunate.
I don't know if you just found out about a new word or what but that means specifically "untruth" which isn't something you've proven at all. You pretend that a graph showing meat production increasing proves that vegans haven't changed anything and that's about as far from proof as one can get. My term for that claim is "bullshit".
You came to this post highlighting people being shitty about social movements and you saw it as a great opportunity to be shitty about a specific social movement.
if you had to look up counterfactuals, you probably aren't qualified to discuss this right now.
Ah I see, if I check my understanding of a word to confirm if I'm right, I shouldn't talk to you. Yeah that does check out actually lol. You didn't address the fact that you are overusing the word (and incorrectly) and have zero evidence for anything you're claiming at all. Stay ignorant, troll.
this should help you understand the concept
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/counterfactuals/
You claimed that rising meat production proves a random idea you had. So I don't think you actually read/understand that paper yourself. Not to mention literally zero people see value in whatever biased ass point you think you're making
no, it shows that being vegan hasn't decreased meat production
Yes that is the random idea I'm talking about, professor. It absolutely doesn't show anything like that. It does, however, make everyone think you're an idiot.
meat production hasn't decreased. therefore nothing can be said to have decreased it.
Even your pea brain could understand that there is literally zero way you could know what it would've been if not for vegans. "I thought something" is not a scientific experiment. You came here to shit on an idea and it's pretty obvious that is all you intend to focus on. You have made no point, added nothing, and said nothing correct. Delete your account.
which is what i've been saying.
No it fucking isn't you trolling dipshit. Delete your account
anyone can read the thread and see it's exactly what i've been saying. calling me names and using coded kys rhetoric won't change what i've written, or its truth.
You have been consistently downvoted precisely because you've literally said nothing except "this graph didn't go down so that proves no difference was made". That is all. It is "counterfactual" or as a non-troll says, incorrect. It is not a conclusion you can draw. But you've drawn it repeatedly.
And this bizarre accusation that I told you to kill yourself is also made up bullshit. Delete your account has a clear meaning and is a valid thing to say to a troll with nothing of value to add. As is blocking them which I will now be doing. Enjoy your sad little trolling campaign but I won't be involved any further.
calling me names, speculating on the reasons for others votes, and mischaracterizing my position all indicate you're not engaging in good faith. have a nice day.