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Small parts of the Cuban economy and the DPRK economy operate under markets, especially so since the fall of the soviet Union. This part is much larger in Cuba since the sanctions.
If you ask an Ultra, even the smallest exchange of goods or services not conducted under the barter system is an infraction on socialist ideals and therefore makes you a capitalist.
The kid selling lemonade at a lemonade stand in their frontyard is bourgeoisie.
The fuck? Do Ultras even believe this? I thought ultras were more like utopian that socialism does not exist without a fully planned economy or some shit?
I don't pay them much mind.
Some of them do, kinda just a broad label for anyone who's so invested in idealism that they refuse to collaborate with anyone or take practical action.
So it's less specifically what economic system do they believe in and more so how dogmatic and idealistic they are. I'm sure some ultras believe in exclusive use of barter or smth like that.
That's wild, they should read Graeber's Debt: The First 5000 years. Barter systems almost exclusively emerge from the collapse of other economic systems.