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[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How can you say, even as the most ultra of ultras, that the DPRK is capitalist... Like what??

[–] T34MediumTank@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Small parts of the Cuban economy and the DPRK economy operate under markets, especially so since the fall of the soviet Union. This part is much larger in Cuba since the sanctions.

If you ask an Ultra, even the smallest exchange of goods or services not conducted under the barter system is an infraction on socialist ideals and therefore makes you a capitalist.

The kid selling lemonade at a lemonade stand in their frontyard is bourgeoisie.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the barter system

The fuck? Do Ultras even believe this? I thought ultras were more like utopian that socialism does not exist without a fully planned economy or some shit?

I don't pay them much mind.

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Some of them do, kinda just a broad label for anyone who's so invested in idealism that they refuse to collaborate with anyone or take practical action.

So it's less specifically what economic system do they believe in and more so how dogmatic and idealistic they are. I'm sure some ultras believe in exclusive use of barter or smth like that.

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

That's wild, they should read Graeber's Debt: The First 5000 years. Barter systems almost exclusively emerge from the collapse of other economic systems.

[–] cattish@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

They are not Real Communists™ and therefore capitalist, the only other possibility

koreans bad

capitalism bad

korea capitalist Q.E.D.

[–] DoofusAscendant@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

You just spelled DPRK with capital letters, QED.

History's only true anti-capitalist was, in fact, ee cummings.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are they a perfect Gonzalite utopia where they gather around the communal candle each evening to read the selected works of Mao while enjoying their half a cup of rice ration (no toppings for that would be bourgeoisie decadence)? If not, then they're clearly revisionist.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i saw a video on ultra.tube where chinese tourists went to pyongyang and there was a shop selling souvenirs to tourists marx-angry and the tour guide had a arirang brand smartphone marx-angry that he claimed he bought marx-angry using his salary marx-angry

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Chinese tourist SHOCKS DPRK tour guide by speaking in perfect revisionist!