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[โ€“] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

NATO without the US has already a higher budget, more soldiers, more vehicles and planes and more modern equipment than Russia.

You're getting fooled by propaganda which has a habit of portraying their enemies as weaker and stronger at the same time.

Europe is starving its social security, education, infrastructure and healthcare to funnel everything into rearmament while the armaments industry has the lowest return of investment with 50 cents per euro invested.

This is not East vs West, this is class war.

[โ€“] Mika@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the war happens, this post would age like milk. Russia has FPVs and Shaheds, cheap recon drones like Orlan, mid range vehicle hunters Lancets. True, they are in a very bad shape and will likely lose if they face the while Europe + Ukraine at the same time in full strength, but people heavily underestimate the military tech advancements made in the war.

As it stands, the only undeniable edge EU has over them is in planes. Would it be enough?

[โ€“] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Combined arms warfare > drones

[โ€“] Mika@piefed.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Combined arms warfare includes drones.

[โ€“] Jumi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

But just drones don't include CAW

[โ€“] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thatโ€™s the idea of โ€œyes we definitely need an armyโ€ but personally Iโ€™m not willing to contribute ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] Jumi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I served but okay, keep blabbing on.

You have no counterargument so you get personal