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The loss of life is awful but this whole thing was and is preventable. Israel could end the conflict by giving the Palestinians their land back, letting them rule themselves without a boot to their neck, and all around just leaving them alone.
NOT that I support everything the Israeli government has done, and honestly the whole thing is a clusterfuck of epic proportions if we're being honest. But, there's a reason Israel has the area blockaded and controlled in the first place (or as you put it, has a boot on their neck) - Hamas' goal is the eradication of the Jewish state and Jewish life and culture in the region. They hate Jews, pure and simple. At best, any Jews they might allow to stay if they had their way, would live under strict Islamic control like in other parts of the middle east. If I lived in Israel, I could be the most left-wing person you'd meet and I still wouldn't advocate for the suicide of my people, because I'm not insane.
Hamas does not share western leftist's and liberal's sense of justice or fairness. They are a militant Islamist terror organization. "Leaving them alone" and hoping they chill is a fantasy.
Insane how many commies there are in here that are praising a terrorist attack on civilians all because Israel bad. Israel isn't perfect but they sure as hell are a lot better than a bunch of wack ass Muslim extremist terrorists.
Plenty of commies are anti-semites like the Soviets They support the destruction of Israel and the eradication of Jews like plenty of Muslims do. They often believe in the international Jewish conspiracy.
While I agree that there is no practical solution that's just "Israel leaves" at this point, it also must be remembered that Hamas was funded by Israel in part because Fatah in the 90s had made too much progress in peace negotiations and appearing to be reasonably representative of the Palestinian people.
It's all kinds of fucked.
Best and most accurate summary of the situation I've yet read
The whole notion of a "Jewish state" is theocratic, thus it should be eliminated. There is literally no reason for it to exist. It's controlled by right-wing religious extremists who only care about spreading their silly, little fairy tale as much as possible instead of letting it die out like it is elsewhere.
Fuck off.