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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Main problem with "paid" is that you have to log in for searching = all your searches can be tied to your payment into / identity. That's a big no-no.

[–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not to mention Kagi is based in the U.S. Whatever privacy promises they make are bullshit.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Either bullshit or delusional (which amounts to bullshit for the users) if they don't realize that they can't do anything about a FISA court order. Do they have a warrant canary at least?

[–] adoxographer@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes: https://kagi.com/privacy

They also have options for anonymous search.

I’m curious about how well they enforce that, and how as a European on European servers they do more, but I wil assume it’s all transparent to state actors. As are all others.

The benefits are in corporations and being monetized.

Yeah they will all be transparent to state actors. Which is why the best option imo is to mix our searches by doing them in private browser windows of different browsers, occasionally wiping history and sometimes using VPN / tor

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

VPN providers and torrent sites solved this a while ago, allowing anonymous payments: crypto, even mailing cash.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you really so naive to assume that your searches tied together won't allow to identify you within days? Please never work in cybersecurity.

Also, crypto coins are a scam nowadays, thanks to the investment markets making them unstable as fuck.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bad news for you, I do work in cybersecurity (for over a decade), and I don't search for "hot singles in my exact address", so a bunch of k8s error message searches and the odd banana bread recipe won't identify me in a while.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Working in cybersecurity and mistaking your own online behavior as being relevant for everyone else. How could that possibly backfire? /s

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If someone cares, they have to be careful. No amount of anonymous tor usage will prevent exposing you if you Google your name and social security number.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You shouldn't go around advising people to use anonymous payment methods for search engines that "protect your privacy". That's really bad advice, is all I am saying. But good for you...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They protect your privacy as much as a search engine can.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You really need to step back and reevaluate.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

In this scenario: Your assessment of the reality of what "protecting people's privacy" means.