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S01E23 A Taste of Armageddon
https://antifandom.com/memory-alpha/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon_(episode)

A rare situation for Scotty-- both in command of the Enterprise, and also making a typically Kirk-like bluff. Or was it, really..?

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Probably my favorite Scotty moment.

And yes, he absolutely was bluffing. Montgomery Scott would not kill innocent civilians, even under direct orders. Recall that in this same episode Scotty refused a direct order to lower the shields and was fully willing to accept the consequences. (See also Star Trek 2009 where Scotty resigns rather than violate his professional ethics.)

I also like how Uhura reacts. She heard Kirk give General Order 24 but didn't connect that with destroying the civilization below until Scotty utters his threat. This reinforces my headcanon that General Order 24 is actually a public health ordinance that was never intended to be used as a threat.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

What you say makes much sense to me, but Memory-Alpha doesn't seem to agree with you:

Act Three
...the batteries open fire on the Enterprise but the shields are able to turn aside the sneak attack. Without the shields they would have been destroyed. Looking for options to respond to this unprovoked attack, Scott decides to respond with a barrage of photon torpedoes, but Ambassador Fox halts any attempt at retaliation.

General Order 24: An order to destroy all life on an entire planet. This order has been given by Captain Garth on Antos IV, Captain Kirk on Eminiar VII and Admiral Simon Reeger on Argus II. On none of these occasions was the order actually fulfilled. Kirk called it an order of last resort while arguing with Reeger about it.

Act Four
Kirk hails the Enterprise informing them to standby to transport the party in ten minutes or carry out General Order 24 on schedule.

So I see it as an actual threat in response to an actual threat, which Kirk was hoping would break Anan7's resolve. Fortunately, the threat didn't need to be carried out, but evidently it was indeed real.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Scott decides to respond with a barrage of photon torpedoes

I disagree with this characterization. Scotty's line is, "We can't fire full phasers with our screens up, and We can't lower our screens with their disruptors on us. Of course I could treat them to a few dozen photon torpedoes." From the tone and delivery I took it as an expression of frustration rather than a serious idea he had, let alone one he had already decided on.

General Order 24: An order to destroy all life on an entire planet.

Which is a really weird thing for Starfleet to have a protocol for. It makes more sense if we assume that GO24 is actually some kind of quarantine/sterilization procedure intended to prevent the spread of dangerous life forms.

Kirk hails the Enterprise informing them to standby to transport the party in ten minutes or carry out General Order 24 on schedule.

If he was bluffing in the first place then he would still be bluffing here. There would be no point in tipping his hand until the situation was under control, which at that point it was not.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I wouldn't argue with that take. Moreso that this all comes down to interpretation and ultimately, belief. And we're talking about a fantasy sci-fi show, in which the needs of delivering weekly shows for an audience were arguably the #1 priority, not that Roddenberry didn't do his best for all things to adhere to his "Show Bible."

Compare ST-TOS to MAS*H, par exemple. A show that took off fairly early on, and accordingly was able to make a load of uncomfortable social commentary, far in excess of TOS's more conceptual versions, somewhat in the vein of The Smothers Brothers and the American version of All in the Family.

Altho it ultimately got cancelled short of the 5yr mission, I feel like TOS was an utterly brilliant show in any number of ways, but much of it was in building parallels to the crazy global events in the world, at the time. Or simply, commentary upon human nature itself.