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visiting here i see a society building as quick as possible but still bursting at the seams with potential

speaking to my chinese colleagues they have much more hope for the future and i have told them i am envious of this.

we are missing a future that's been taken from us

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, continue to march into the future in which you will have none anyway.

[–] hollowmines@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

Without a mass movement, you're describing suicide.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

China is the only superpower that's making a concerted effort not to boil the planet, they're the only reason that poverty as fallen over the past decades(take them out of the stats and its risen)

There maybe no future in the west but long term human survival and maintaing a habitable planet, and making sure no one has to live in poverty should be a premier goal for anarchists and communists

You can argue that there's better ways to reach those goals, but in actually material reality 'authoritarian' China is the only realistic chance for halting the Anthropocene Extinction and host of other universally bad things

Real leftist organisation in the west effecting positive change, while important to fight for is as of now many, many years away from even limited fruition thus anti-imperialism needs the be a main focus of any real leftist project

Viewing China as making positive developments and being a society brimming with potential is not mutually exclusive with fighting for change in the west

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I kinda just ignored the China bit there. I think things probably look pretty sweet right now if you are a Chinese citizen.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Its not impossible to move to China if you are in danger of persecution in the west(they've even recently relaxed visa regs), or to
to fight for a revolutionary change to a China style system at home
or at the very least advocate for reform to your local system so that it more closely resembles China's where the working class control the commanding heights of the economy
(through a vanguard party, and not as in a idealised but not currently realistic system of direct democracy and instantly recallable delegates as advocated by most anarchists, and China is increasing the amount of horizontal power in society such as increasing the amount of worker co-ops, but not at a rate most anarchists would like)
rather than have Oligarchs dictate everything