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I don't have anything to add. It's been a decade and people are still talking about Putin's Pee Tapes. I'm tired.

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[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 64 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Whenever I see or hear "Slava Ukraini" I viscerally react as though it were a sieg heil.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

Same

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was explicitly modeled on 'Heil Hitler - Sieg heil'.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Could you elaborate on this? I know the OUN used "Slava Ukraini" and the call and response with "glory to the heroes" is similar to the call and response you mention, but I have never heard of it being "explicitly modeled" on the Nazi slogan.

Looking it up all I see are atlanticist freaks talking about how Bandera merely had a brief "strategic alliance" with the Nazis (something that I am familiar with the heinous deceptiveness of).

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

Looking it up all I see are atlanticist freaks talking about how Bandera merely had a brief "strategic alliance" with the Nazis (something that I am familiar with the heinous deceptiveness of).

Same people who will use Molotov-Ribbentrop to portray the USSR as staunch Nazi allies

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

During the "strategic alliance", they also used Slava Ukraini and Slava Heroiam as the call/response to their Nazi allies' Heil Hitler.

Like if a Banderite and a Nazi met, it would either go "Heil Hitler" "Slava Heroiam" or "Slava Ukraini" "Sieg Heil".

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe you, but do you have a source for that?

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm afraid I can't remember where I read it. The only source I could find from a cursory search (on Yandex of course, western search engines return nothing) is this blog post which says that it was adopted at the second conference of the OUN, in fascist Rome in 1939 at which time Bandera was networking with all the European fascists - however this blog also doesn't cite any sources, so it's not much more help.

I did manage to find this photo of a banner in occupied Ukraine during WW2

It says "Heil Hitler! Slava ~~Nazis~~Hitler, Slava Ukraine!"

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Slava Nazis

It's "Слава Гiтлеровi" - "Glory to Hitler"

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

So it is, I should have known enough Cyrillic by now to have spotted that

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't precisely remember, where I read this.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wikipedia article basically covers it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slava_Ukraini

The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.[1] The response "Glory to the heroes!" first appeared during the Ukrainian War of Independence or later in the 1920s among members of the League of Ukrainian Nationalists.[2] In the 1930s, it became widespread as a slogan of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN),[3] as well as Ukrainian diaspora groups and refugee communities in the West during the Cold War. In the Soviet Union, the phrase was forbidden. The phrase eventually resurfaced in Ukraine during the country's struggle for independence in connection with the fall of the Soviet Union. Its use was revived again during the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and the Russo-Ukrainian War, during which it became a widely popular symbol in Ukraine.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.

Sounds weird, because I literally never seen this phrase mentioned in any contemporary accounts before late 1920s-early 1930s.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The source it lists for that has a note for the Nova Rada paper dated 1917 that says it "Slava! Slava Ukraine!" in the middle.
https://www.istpravda.com.ua/images/doc/c/1/c17df46-1917.2b23dde-03-zboty-v-dii-vtsi.jpg
The source says it goes back earlier to around 1900 by Kharkiv Ukrainian students' association. Not sure how dependable Istorychna Pravda is as a source. The author is Yury Yuzych, head of Plast Supervisory Council, which is some international Ukrainian network (particularly in Canada) so I assume it's fascist in nature. Found a Radio Free Europe article where he's associated with a "patriotic summer camp" in Ukraine from 2024 so I'm like 90% he's a fascist.