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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Righties quick to harp about that can't govern banner but ignore how they kicked the speaker out then RAN LIKE HELL

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

how many SC seats have they gotten in the past ten years?

[-] edge@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago

It's more effective to ask how many Supreme Court seats they got in a single Trump term. The answer is the same but it all happened in a span of about 4 years, not 10.

Also ask how it happened. They prioritized ideology over "norms" and "rule of law". They controlled the Senate when Scalia died and just said "nah, we're not gonna let Obama get this one". Then with Trump in office one of their oldest knew it was time to retire (unlike a certain other Justice) then they sit-back-and-enjoy until that certain other Justice died in office and snagged that 3rd appointment a month before the election, contrary to their reasoning for blocking Obama, swinging the balance of the court even more in their favor.

Because no "norm" or "precedent" matters, even one you made up. When you have the power to do something to further your ideology, you do it. Regardless of the minority party's complaints. If the law doesn't stop you from doing it, you do it. If it does stop you, you find a workaround.

Democrats refuse to operate that way, which is why they can't govern. e.g. Biden could easily cancel all student loan debt regardless of what the Supreme Court says, because the Supreme Court has no way to actually prevent him from doing it. Worst case the R House impeaches him for defying the Supreme Court and the D Senate just acquits, so basically nothing but theater.

Instead they tried the bare minimum and gave it up at the first speed bump.

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

They actually don't want to govern and just use that as an excuse

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Pretending you don't have the power to make a decision is... still you, making a decision. Biden is still governing. He is still responsible for the unbelievably terrible job he is doing no matter how loudly he keeps saying his hands are tied.

Bush II set the precedent for presidential powers being calvinball. Nobody is going to stop Biden (or will stop Trump after he gets elected again) from doing anything. Haven't you noticed Trump has yet to face a single actual material consequence from absolutely anything at all? Do you think that's an accident? An oversight?

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

That is a semantic difference. I think we basically agree just that we phrase it differently

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh yeah for sure, sorry I'm just ranting

[-] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

Who cares? Executive order packing the court would be found to be constitutional in a 10-9 decision

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

if the democrats could govern that might be a thing that could happen, but

[-] Tomboys_are_Cute@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

Is abortion legal where you live?

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

Abortion has been effectively illegal in many parts of this country for years. Liberals didn't give a rat's ass until it affected their blind worship of their "problematic favs" because they can't reconcile reality with their belief system.

Everything I found confusing or inexplicable about American political theater cleared up immediately after learning the immortal science

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