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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Edit 2: I originally put the Sarkha in here, but you know what - I'll just say, death to Amrikkka, death to Pissrael, and the new vogue quote: Amrikka is the mother of terrorism.

nasrallah amerikkka isntrael

[–] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yknow we do not fault Ansarallah for it at all and maybe theres even some context were missing for why they say it but we dont think ppl here should be going "damn the jews" like that

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It really is an unfortunate slogan in that sense. I share the sentiment of Mohammed Al-Kurd in his "Jewish settlers stole my house. It's not my fault they're Jewish." essay, but I shan't be chanting "damn the Jews".

[–] huf@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

yeah, as soon as, let's say, 50% of world jewery starts materially opposing israel, we can start asking them to change the slogan to "curse on zionism" maybe

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To my understanding (and anyone reading this feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), the idea of Jews as a race that is genetically ontologically evil is a specifically Western brainworm that arose from eugenics and racial "science." This is very different from the view of Judaism as a religious category which is how things tend to be in other parts of the world and even in earlier Europe (e.g. Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice" is pretty blatantly antisemitic, but Shylock is spared on the condition that he convert to Christianity, which is very different from the Nazi policy of "you had one Jewish grandparent so there is no alternative but your death"). You can see how that would change the reading of "curse upon the Jews." It's not something I'd say myself, because as a white American, I'm not a victim of Israel and there'd be reasonable grounds to suspect me of using it in the skull-measuring sense. Very different context from a Palestinian or Iranian saying it.

[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ronnie Kasrils and Norman Finkelstein both have provided excellent context to such slogans and the rationale as to why it is expressed.

Personally, I either omit the line in question or substitute it with "Death to the Axis of Satan" when I chant it.

I have seen the Sarkha displayed at protests in Johannesburg and have not really heard any outrage/concerns about it, except from Rhodeaboos pearl-clutching over "left-wing South Africans being so openly hostile to piSSrael"