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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't need to refer to your elementary school math skills to impugn your intelligence, the fact that you completely failed to address the entire second half of their comment is more than enough to justify calling you a dumbass

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The rest of their comment doesn't matter because it's based on bad math.

1½ cups is not an absurdly large serving. And cooking vegetables is easier than cooking meat. It's less finicky, and usually doesn't need to reach a specific temperature. And you can cook it in large batches that last longer than meat does, simplifying meal prep by only doing it on the weekends.

Also, you're the first anti-vegan tankie I've ever met. Congratulations. I wonder what all your tankie friends will think when they find out you're defending carnists... 🤔

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The rest of their comment doesn't contain any math dumbass

a vegan meal may be cheaper and more nutritional, but Americans are working two or more jobs. meal prep is difficult when you’re mentally and physically drained. when you’re tired, broken, depressed, the last thing you want is food that doesn’t make you feel good, satisfied, or comforted.

I think vegans often overlook the barriers to entry into a strictly vegan diet and are blinded by their own hubris. if this isn’t true, then the vegan struggle to convert nonbelievers wouldn’t be so difficult, would it?

I'm not anti-vegan, I'm anti-moron. The vegans I know in real life aren't half as stupid as the ones on the Internet. Tbh I assume most of y'all are paid ag industry trolls deliberately misrepresenting veganism as a smear campaign.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I never said it contains math, I said it's based on bad math. Which it is. You're really not arguing in good faith, but I already knew you wouldn't.

And I already addressed the things you quoted, so who's ignoring second-halves of comments now?

I'm not anti-vegan, I'm anti-moron.

You're jumping through a lot of hoops to try to defend a carnist argument which is wrong on a fundamental level.

The vegans I know in real life aren't half as stupid as the ones on the Internet. Tbh I assume most of y'all are paid ag industry trolls deliberately misrepresenting veganism as a smear campaign.

Dude, look yourself in the mirror. Those "vegans on the internet" are mostly all tankie trolls just like you.

And I'm not even vegan. I'm just pointing out the flaws in GreenKnight's argument, because it's a flawed argument.

Oh but I am vegetarian, so I do know how easy it is to replace meat with veggies in ones diet, from a financial and logistical point of view. The hardest part is the emotional hurdle, the attachment to eating meat, the cravings. Which is no different from any other addiction.

If the argument was about those I would say "Yes, it's difficult to make the switch and I encourage people to do it slowly by gradually reducing their meat intake until they no longer miss it."

But that's not what the argument was about. They were trying to say it's cheaper and easier to buy meat at the store and cook it than it is to do with vegetables. Which is fundamentally incorrect.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I tried to have an inteligent debate. But you desire to live in ignorance. Sad.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You really do have zero intelligent things to say, don't you...

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago

You're bad at this

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You continue to describe yourself. It's pathetic.