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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And, as usual...Conservatives can't seem to decide whose side they're on.

[–] Seppo@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Conservatives are on the side of fascism like always.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sure that's part of it but think it's more that they just have to be contrary. They have no policy position on anything except to disagree with whatever Carney is doing. If he capitulated and signed a crappy trade deal they'd be saying he's weak and should have stood his ground.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Some of them, for sure! I learned from covid that about 10% of the population is contrarian, and though that overlaps somewhat with conservatism, it's also prevalent among self-described "antiauthoritarians" who are into alternative health and politics (they think). This pans out with the similar percentage of antimaskers in 1917 and during the smallpox inoculations.

[–] elibroftw@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago

In this case being province first is fascism. Only on Lemmy.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

they are always on the side of the USA.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mostly because it's a neo-monarchist kleptocracy. Wealth and Power are distributed according to inherent, not achieved, merit. Know Your Place, peon.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Mostly because they come to the party of years of working in ironically named "think tanks" funded by US right wing foundations like Koch and Atlas.

Example: Jamil Jirvani. Appointed senior fellow for Diversity and Empowerment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, a conservative, libertarian think tank affiliated with the US Atlas Network, in 2020. Buddy of JD Vance, they ran a fake charity in Ohio together.

After that he got fired from Bell Media for covid misinformation and insisting on misgendering Demi Lovato. Then he pulled the race card claiming he was fires because he was black.

Since January 2026, he has been in Washington involved in the trade negotiations, which is why that ended up being the shitshow it is.

Bowmanville -Oshawa loves him, now they can eat a big steaming bowl of tariffs.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

That's who pays the bills....

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're only ever on their own side.

[–] frankdew@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not all of them. Some sure loves to vote against their own interests.

[–] potter2010@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I'd say most.

Unless, you're a rich, white, cis, straight, male bigot.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

This is one of the prominent definitions of ideology: thinking in a way that allows you to participate in your own oppression.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Some sure loves to vote against their own interests.

Pierre Poilievre threw his own father under the bus fighting gay marriage.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pierre Poilievre threw his own father under the bus

That's his father. It doesn't affect Peter. They're two different people, so why should he care?

(If you need a sarcasm tag on this, I weep for your teachers)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

Actually, I think it's "hare hair" ("rabbit hair" would be "Poillapin").

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I'm watching For All Mankind and enjoy the portrayal of this process.

Tap for spoilerThe president and First Gentleman are closeted and in a marriage of convenience... and she still institutes 'don’t ask don't tell' during the '90s while mourning a life sacrificed to power.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They love speaking with both sides of their mouths.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you grew up in the more political churches you'll recognize the coded language they use. It's sounds like benign religious platitudes but they specifically allude to stories and concepts with charged connotations.

It's scarier than people expect.... https://streamable.com/2yj2tj (link expires after 48 hours so download if you care)

[–] elibroftw@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lolol read the article. Conservatives are equally province first and country first.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh huh. And do you understand what that means, in the context of a trade war with the US?

[–] elibroftw@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So you're just moving goal posts after implying that being province first is unpatriotic? You're just being crazy, like great job enforcing the idea that Lemmy is full of nutjobs compared to the already biased Reddit.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 50 minutes ago

Oh. You're from Reddit? I guess that makes sense. You should stay there, man. It's probably more your pace.