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Nobody is trying to imply a black and white view of the world, but that doesn't mean words don't have meaning. Just because North Korea has a semblance of elections doesn't make it democratic, just like the US isn't socialist even though it has welfare programs. And if you jumped into every discussion about US late stage capitalism with a "actually capitalism and socialism are not mutually exclusive", I would consider that just as counterproductive.
You're just proving my point here
Hmm, so your point was that you were in fact being counterproductive? If so I totally agree
You clearly don't even understand my point, because you're not bothering to learn anything. You can't even grasp the differences in economies, let alone the differences in how one is operated from a liberal party compared to a workers party.
Do you even know the main difference between the Chinese economy and the US economy? Both are mixed, as in they both have elements of socialist and capitalist organization, yet are organized and controlled in vastly different ways. The US, and other western economies, are beholden to Capital interests, because the liberal parties subservient to Capital. The socialist aspect has been withered away since the gains of socialist forces for decades, because workers have no power. The Chinese economy is under the control of the CCP, a workers party. While the party itself is organized as a Democratic Republic, the State is under the dictatorship of that workers party, meaning that Capitalist forces are subservient to the state. And that's before the discussion of how a party can be communist, yet be able to wield the forces of capitalism within a controlled scope to rapidly industrialize key industries before taking state control to socialize those industries in the form of state capitalism. Let alone how worker cooperatives, where there is an actual socialist means of production, fit into the picture.
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