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There's gonna be a big deal clash between Amish and the US Gvt over the following decades. Amish population grows at about a 4% yearly, which doesn't sound much, but it means in 2000 there were 160k and nowadays there are above 400k of them, literally exponential growth.
They don't conform to capitalism to a large extent and only very partially participate in the economy from what I understand, and there will be a time when the sufficiently large pool of Amish will be seen as desirable labor by capital.
You must have never lived near an Amish community. Pretty much every large Amish community makes a good bit of money off of tourism. Most of them will have a town centered around selling handmade quilts, baked goods, and handmade furniture to out of town visitors.
A lot of them also will have fairly large construction companies that can compete with other local businesses because they don't really pay for labour, that's why they have so many kids in the first place. In the less strict communities that allow the use of tractor and combine machines they will also do a good bit of business via agriculture.
I think it would be fair to say they aren't much into conspicuous consumption tho.
No, but they do still engage in consumerism. The very strict communities are a minority, most of the Amish people I knew had very large and quite plain houses. However most of them also had very extravagant barns with power where they kept all their modern amenities.
If they don't pay for labor it's not capitalism.
How so? They still own the means of production and profit from the production done by workers.
Are you also claiming that southern plantation owners were not engaging in capitalism because they did not pay slaves?
By Marxist definition - yes, exploiting slave labor is not capitalism, it is some in-between system between feudalism and capitalism. Capitalism is characterized by private ownership on means of production + exploitation of wage labor. Marxists also usually acknowledge that capitalism is a better system compared to slave-based societies which came before it.
Eh, that's highly debated. There are arguments that it's a form of proto capitalism, a form of primitive accumulation, or just a higher level of exploitation. After all all labour under capitalism is fraught with levels of coercion. I've also seen it proposed that slaves are considered a part of the means of production themselves as they are viewed and treated as commodities by their owners.
God that would be funny. Obviously I'm not rooting for capital, but they'd probably reinvent Marxism from first principles as they resist. They'd end up as the vanguard party and all the leftists would be in chinstrap beards like
Given all (almost all?) successful socialist revolutionary movements grew out of agrarian societies, this actually makes way too much sense for c/Slop
Me, dressed up like some nineteenth century lady, plus my Lenin hat, ranting about how we didn't get the vanguard we wanted, but thank the Lord we got one at all...
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I love it so much I actually laughed
I mean, I already think that era was the absolute peak of fashion, and a lot of "old school leftism vibes" are just "Industrial Revolution but make it Soviet industry", so if the cost to eliminating capitalism is losing some modern fashions and tech... well, alright then.
(I say in a comment posted to HexBear, but... eh.)
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The possibility of leftwing anabaptism was foreclosed centuries ago. Any left Amish movement would die the instant someone suggested that they stop letting manure run off into the rivers.
It might interest you to know there was a wave of immigration to Canada ~ 1950s because of the draft and objections to social security (they can now apply to be exempt).