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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

They'll point to Israel, Israel, Israel. Okay, sure, agreed.

But when you point out that China, North Korea, and Russia are all engaging in a blatant genocide against Ukraine -- they suddenly cannot grasp the concept!

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My political sanity check is to ask what one's opinion is on Ukraine and Palestine.

See Ukrainians as victims of genocide but not Palestine? Zionist piece of shit. Palestinians are victims but Russia is justified? Tankie piece of shit. Don't approve of either genocide? Might be a sane human being that actually dislikes genocide itself.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Genocide is when the killing is not being done by my friends.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

War justification can cause some crazy opinions and stances.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

See, I understand the sentiment, but then I also know many people who use terms like "tankie" also wouldn't be super chill about anti-imperialism in any way related to abolishing the EU, US, Canada, Australia, etc. Not that is necessarily the case, but hardly worth focusing on "hypocrisy" without consistency.

You all for ending Canada or the US?

Israel isn't a democracy.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How are China and North Korea engaging in blatant genocide against Ukraine?

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

North Korea is supporting the Russian war effort by providing troops. North Koreans have been fighting alongside Russian soldiers for a long while now. It's actually worse, because North Korean soldiers are on the front lines they're getting experience fighting a modern war. Which means that if North Korea ever gets into a shooting war with South Korea or the United States they'll have experienced troops. Right now the best thing to do would be support Ukrainian forces because they're also gaining experience fighting a modern war and could teach those skills to American and NATO troops.

As for China, I don't know.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China supports Russia in a similar, but lesser, way to the US supporting Israel.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Ah oh no you pointed to Israel so that argument just doesn't count.

I mean if that counted you could say that almost all the western nations are "blatantly engaging in genocide" for supporting Israel or preventing sanctions. That basically normalized genocide. It becomes an everyday thing. Genocide, schmemocide.

Obviously the removal of Children by Russia is considered a war crime and can amount to ethnic cleansing.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well yeah, Russia is also gaining experience in drone warfare. It's just one reason why I'm against continuing this war. We're literally building up Russia as our enemy. The military elites in Russia all support this war, and the war economy is going to build up their weapons capabilities long term.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm against continuing this war

Oh so noble of you!

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

NK provides troops and artillery shells. China keeps their market open to russi allowing drone and drone parts purchases - which are instantly weponized into loitering ammunition aka kamikaze drones

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 0 points 22 hours ago

So basically all the following countries that are still engaging in trade with Israel are engaging in genocide against Palestine:

Argentina Australia Austria Brazil Canada China Costa Rica Czechia Denmark Ecuador Egypt Estonia Finland France Greece Hungary India Ireland Italy Japan Mexico Moldova Morocco Netherlands New Zealand Norway Paraguay Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Romania Singapore Slovakia South Korea Sweden Switzerland Thailand United Arab Emirates United Kingdom United States Uruguay Vietnam