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Artist Jingna Zhang built Cara, a platform explicitly intended to protect artists from having their art stolen by AI...and yet these people just won't leave them well enough alone.

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

An Arms Race always reaches an end, and sadly there's more money and resources on the side of AI (but less people) than the side of anti (which has lots of people, but barely any money, and barely any resources)

It will end in defeat, but a slow gradual one at least

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

2 things.

  1. Master locks are the easiest to pick and still the most popular. I don't see you advocating for leaving your bike unlocked because it's inevitable that the bike thieves win.

  2. That money is fake and recirculated like the air in an airplane. That's literally what people mean when they talk about the AI bubble. All these companies are incestuous as fuck. Google invests in Nvidia who invests in Anthropic who invests in Microsoft who invest in OpenAI who invest in Nvidia who invest in Google. There's no NEW money coming in. That has ALREADY dried up. They're literally passing money in a circle. That's WHY it's a bubble, and that's how it's already popping.

Personally I think we should watch Oracle. They're by far the most over leveraged. At least publicly. When they fall over, everyone else will follow. The big ones like Microsoft and Google are at least diversified and might survive, but the bubble pop will eventually catch up. OpenAI already spend $1.22 for ever $1 they make, and their expenses grow in lock step with their demand. Sam Altman's plan to make it all profitable is to build AGI and ask it to figure it out for him because, and I cannot stress this enough, he. is. a. moron.

Your defeatist attitude is what they want because the more people that believe that, the longer the bubble is sustained.

Take heart. They are weaker than you realise. They are not infallible, their armor is paper.

I'm drunk and apologize for my flowery language.

Happy Friday, the fight is winnable.

I love you all.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago

I agree we are in a bubble, but I think we should look at what is allowing us to be in a bubble.

My best guess is that, as a society, we are completely structured around greed. If you have a way to make money, nobody is going to tell you to stop it. Obvious things that previous generations would have put a kabosh on that we are unable to, things that make some individuals money, put are socially parasitic: cryptocurrency and online gambling (that is GAMBLING spelled G-A-M-B-L-I-N-G: GAMBLING. In a sentence: Audrey spent her entire retirement GAMBLING at the casino).

In the run up to the subprime mortgate crisis, Senator Diane Warren tried to raise the alarm that these loans were structurally unsound. She got calls back from colleagues all basically saying the same thing:

We talked to our guys and they say it's fine--they're all making money.

They're all making money! Therefore, the system is working as intended.

If you want to look at it more structurally, we are also ruled an elite group of mega-rich. They have more to gain and less to lose by keeping the AI train going, but they are going to crash the world economy in doing so: a great opportunity to snap up real estate for cheap for them. The rich never lose.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 23 hours ago

I admire your optimism, and I really do hope you're right!

Also I'm a fan of flowery language, so keep it up

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I could not agree more. I’ve been having conversations with people about this since late last year and predicted that the bubble would burst some time in 2026 but I’m thinking I may be off and it could be early 2027 now. This accounting nonsense makes up a very significant portion of the US stock market, so the bubble bursting is gonna have some pretty big flow-on effects as well. I’d recommend anyone with any form of investment look into what they have and plan for a significant market event.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You are delusional to think next year is gonna be curtains for a trillion dollar industry backed by billionaire CEOs, military and government influence. The AI bubble won't pop, if it ever does, until well into beyond the next decade.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

For the AI bubble to not pop, an AI company needs to make money off of AI first. Not raising investments. They need to actually make at least $1 off of using/selling AI services.

This hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it ever will. The AI machines simply cost more to run than they produce, so when the investment money runs out, they'll be shut down.

In 2007: "How could the housing bubble pop? After all, the real estate industry is backed by billionaire CEOs, military, and government influence."

In 1999: "How could the dot com bubble pop? After all, the internet is backed by billionaire CEOs, military, and government influence."

In 1929: "How could the Stock Market crash? After all, international capitalism is backed by millionaire CEOs, military, and government influence."

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 0 points 18 hours ago

I really hope you're right and not me. I'll check back in with a comment in a year from now so you and I can talk about what happened and what to do at an individual level next.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

This rocks and you're 100% correct. Bless you.