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I am a 30% convinced AOC will win in '28. I am 100% convinced that El-Sayed will in in '32 if that does not** happen. (hexbear.net)

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still counts if he is VP in '28 or '32
had to get the take in at the last second tonight before he wins the primary tomorrow
inb4 "he isn't a socialist" i know, im not wish casting, just saying what is 70% likely to happen.
inb4 "electing succdems won't make the revolution" i know, im not wish casting, just saying what is 70% likely to happen
imo a succdem imperial core is far preferable to a fascist one, from any non-fascist perspective.

Edit: I miswrote my statement last night. If AOC wins, she will be running for a second term. If she doesn't win, the path is clear for AES.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Dem machine is collapsing,

I hope you're right. But I'm still very pessimistic.

[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The libshit will continue for sure, just from a socdem angle instead a corporate suit angle. I do think the difference is substantial though.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The 2026 elections are almost here. The real fight will be what happens beyond that to 2028, etc. The MSM effectively does oppo research against leftists and then lies and pass it off as "journalism". That behavior is many decades old. What worries is is the insane amount of money and resources the lib donor class has. They own newspapers and tv stations, etc. It's easy as pie for them to use that try to destroy leftist politicians. I can't explain what I mean very well because my insomnia is very bad and muddles my thinking.

Ninja edit. In other words... Starting in the 2028 campaigns - the lib donor class does a ginormous amount of lib hasbara. I want to have a positive outlook but I think they have a great chance of succeeding a lot of the time.

[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Yes but independent left media (Hasan, dropsite, even liberals like Don Lemon) are gaining viewership and credibility as they push back. The establishment has no argument besides "Trump voters don't want socialism" (not even true), and "Hasan is an antisemite who said America deserves 100 9-11s" (nobody cares, when they hammered "hasan bad" in Michigan, El-Sayed was blasted from third into first place).

There is $50m in AIPAC money backing Stevens, but she is going to lose tonight. This will win sometimes, but liberal VOTERs largely agree with our domestic vision, and they are coming around on foreign policy too (to an extent!).

I agree with Hasan's quote from this last weekend that the 2028 nominee will not be pro-Israel as a matter-of-fact. The liberals love Mamdani who gives the DSA good press. The ones that don't will suck it up for El-Sayed who is not a DSA guy, but never punches to his left. Not saying the Zionist entity will be dismantled (the axis of resistance will probably be dealing with that more directly), but the aid will never flow so easily again.

Us socialists understand the material underpinning of capitalism better than our opposition. In the globalized, internet connected information age, our message is starting to travel faster than they can keep up with.