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idk it's my first time (kind of) trying to do dataviz, I thought the original post was super interesting but like other comments said, it was hard to read.

I think in a way it's mostly because defederation is complex to show as links, since it is the break of said link, but hopefully this type of graph is better ?

you do lose the "group" of instances view, though (and also I did not bother with per instance MAU as raw number + percentage, or sofware used)

let me know what you think!

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[–] ozoned@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I know lots of folks look at this and see a shattering of the what they expect. The Fediverse is NOT a platform. Lemmy.world is NOT the Threadiverse. Let's break these bonds. I left a server because I was suspected of being a CIA plant. I went to one that was more welcoming. I found they were too strict for me on their rules. I left that. I'm not on piefed.social. I'm planning on running my own piefed for ME and MY family/friends hopefully SOON^TM. If someone defederates from me, that's ok, they didn't want me to be a part of their community. MY community still exists.

These aren't platforms that are out there trying to save the entire world. They're building a community that interconnects to other communities. Don't like how they're doing it, you can literally spin up your own for dollars per month.

Yes, if you want your stuff to be found you have to advocate for it.

I think the Trek communities are stand outs of how this works and how it should be done. Think of like old Forum days. Normally folks would create a forum for a specific topic and other thigns would go other places. But now those forums connect and you can run your own and connect to everyone.

Break this idea that this major pillars disconnecting are fracturing the fediverse. IMO the more small instances we have the stronger the network.

So build a Piefed/Lemmy/Mastodon/GoToSocial/Bonfire whatever for your community and then allow those to connect out to others.

The idea of this change is scary though. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we can't exist the way I hope we do. But I think humans strive for community and communication and we have a new way to provide it to them.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 day ago

Besides, and related to "not being a platform", it helps break the idea of everyone having to share the same space with everyone. If two groups can't have a healthy relationship, it is healthier for them to cut ties with each other. Meanwhile, the oligarchic platforms being as big and with barely any internal borders makes for the toxic environment of places like Reddit and Twitter that predates recent polemics.

[–] Bombastic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 22 hours ago

Well said, agent Johnson.

God bless the U.S. of A

Don’t like how they’re doing it, you can literally spin up your own for dollars per month.

Not so easy.
Mostly a liability issue.
First there's security - make sure the server doesn't get compromised.
Then you need to figure out how to deal with illegal content like CSAM (was already a widespread issue on Lemmy at least once, causing multiple instances to shutdown) - even on private instance due to content caching.
And legal issues such as minimum age and privacy regulations that you'd have to comply with.

3rd one is not an issue if you only use it yourself, and perhaps with a couple of friends that won't try to sue you when they get mad.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There are 500 Lemmy instances and 80 PieFed instances which are too small to show on the graph :)

[–] yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

It would be cool if every instance were a circle, and then you could see the lines

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Agreed. Its federated. Let instances do thier thing. It gives us more options not less.