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Sam Altman claimed we're already living through the singularity. (www.youtube.com)
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Cross posted from https://sh.itjust.works/post/64317237

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Sam Altman claimed we're already living through the singularity. Is it true, or is it just marketing? Just days before, one of OpenAI's models escaped from a testing environment and ended up hacking another company's servers on its own. We analyze how real that claim is and what the experts say.

And from there, we jump to something bigger: can artificial intelligence have a soul? We delve into the debate that has divided physicists, neuroscientists, and philosophers, from Roger Penrose's quantum theory to the arguments of Sean Carroll and Max Tegmark, including integrated information theory and the thermodynamics of life. Spoiler alert: even physics can't agree.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The difference is if it self-improves at general tasks.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That's still not a singularity.

A singularity self-improves its ability to self-improve. That has not happened.

We also don't even know if it just spontaneously decided to escape containment, or if they prompted it, i.e.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Self improving is included in "general tasks."

I don't really see why it's important whether or not it needs to be prompted because it's really easy to write "improve yourself according to human standards" into a chatbox

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A singularity self-improves its ability to self-improve. That has not happened.

You don't know how things get done at Anthropics but I bet they are making Claude improve Claude. Sure there are humans still, but you know, it's not nothing

[–] babysmokesalot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

What is improve?

[–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s called variables in memory.

Next time you start it up, it has no idea and random guesses again.

So you save variables to disk.

It starts up and has the variables.

Still random guessing.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

AGI solved with this one simple trick, computer scientists hate him