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Not a fan of the fact they're doing this (obviously), given that I despise the waste and societal consequences AI companies are bringing upon us, but before anyone assumes they're just doing this for the sake of being evil or something like that:
Destructive Scanning is the cheapest and easiest to automate methods of scanning books. This is fairly common for any large-scale digitizing projects that aren't dealing with old, limited-in-supply books. (in this case, it's just books before 2022, which still likely have many copies in circulation)
They're also doing this to comply with court requirements for fair use. According to Ars Technica, a judge ruled that the destructive scanning qualified as fair use, only because Anthropic had spent the money to buy the books outright, destroyed them afterwards, and not distributed digital copies after.
The alternative is either Anthropic pirating the books (authors get paid $0), or buying the books, then distributing them back on the market through resellers (authors get paid the cost of the book, but then someone else buys the same copy secondhand and the author misses out on what would have otherwise been a fresh sale)
I mean there is one you missed out but ok
What?
Shut it all down
Judge should be aware that public libraries exist within the law. Destruction of books should not be a legal requirement, books scanned without destruction could go to a public library without violating laws.
This seems to be a cost savings method of scanning cheap books in bulk. Not difficult to set up a different workflow for rare books.
Yeah, I wish this was the case. I don't think that under Anthropic's prior ruling at least, that it would be allowed though, since after donating to the library (assuming they non-destructively scanned the books) they would then have to discard the entire set of digital copies they made, as that would mean they copied the work, and thus didn't engage in a legal "transformation" of that work that maintains only one copy, and thus there would be no reason for them to do it in the first place.
I wish our copyright law could at least consider a donation to a library as equivalent to destruction of a work so companies could keep a scan but not have it be considered a copy. That way at least we'd be getting the giant influx of books going to libraries from AI training bs.
I heard someone on another social media site say that if the only physical copies are gone then it's hard to prove copyright infringement.
So they are intentionally shreading books knowing that they can't be sued for copyright infringement if there is no copy of the og material to prove it.
I have no clue if that's true, but that sounds pretty far fetched imo.
As already mentioned, the books being purchased are not like, the only sole remaining copies of the work. Many of the authors are probably still alive, and there's likely thousands or millions of each book distributed all over the country of origin, if not the world, in the hands of individuals, bookshops, libraries, archives, etc.
A judge said it was fair use when they purchased and solely used the books for AI training without redistributing them or a copy of them afterwards, so they're just doing that in order to not get sued again. Not much more to it.
Aren't some of the books considered rare ? I mean that's why people are mad.
And yeah I agree they already use stolen works.
I'm just saying I heard someone say that.
I'm curious, myself, if it holds true or not. I don't know enough about copyrights.
But I do know Google has made quite a lot of effort to scan books. Ive found stuff on Google books that is legit 100 years old in German research on optics. (I study depth perception). And I was really surprised they had a photocopy of it.
But maybe Google wanted a hefty price for access. Maybe a subscription.