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[–] plateee@piefed.social 95 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Musk insisted backyard tomatoes weren’t as good as those you can buy from the store, but people still do it anyway.

Spoken like a man who has never grown tomatoes at home.

I hated tomatoes until I ate a home grown Black Krim sandwich. Now there's the added benefit that I know it's not covered in salmonella or diarrhea parasites.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My neice apparently "hated" tomatos until she tried a cherry from my greenhouse. She ate six of them and every time she came over patted the outside of the greenhouse singing "mato mato mato please"

Most store sold tomatoes aren't allowed to ripen on their own and their flavours are totally messed up as a result

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most store sold tomatoes aren’t allowed to ripen on their own and their flavours are totally messed up as a result

This is what many people need to learn and it applies to many varieties of fruit. Most fruits can't ripen after being picked. They just soften and rot.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because everything he says, no matter how trivial, is wrong. The man is incapable of being correct about anything.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

He's correct about The Culture being an amazing vision of how humanity's future could look like. He's absolutely off his rocker about how to get there

The Culture IS “fully automated luxury queer space communism”, that's just a straight-up summary of it. In The Culture:

  • it's communism. There's not even money.
  • everyone can “gland” drugs for pleasure, performance or to change their sex. How the fuck does that match Musk’s anti-trans shit?
  • diversity permeates everything; obviously internally, but also externally, as they try to get along with everyone who isn't a galactic imperialist threat. How the hell does that match Musk’s xenophobia?

It's weird how Musk seems to basically be a tankie: he wants to achieve communism by any means necessary …

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Honestly it's batshit that anyone can read The Culture and NOT understand the entire point is that The Culture persists and succeeds where others fail because of it's values and diversity. Very much including those constant sex changes and anarcho-communism/socialism.

Hell, the Idiran war (for those not familiar, a horrible war that takes place in the first book and the rest of the books in various ways deal with the fallout and trauma from it) is entirely about fighting a jingoistic, imperialist force before they gather enough strength to inevitably destroy the culture.

This tells me that either Elon has never actually read them, or that he's a moron.

Probably both.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess i got to read them more. I only read Player of Games and Consider Phlebas and my take away was that they have what's almost a paradise but it's still fucked up.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A common mistake readers make is that they believe the Vavatch orbital is Culture. It's very definitely not, so all the unsavory stuff going on there isn't a reflection of the Culture. Not Damage, not the Eaters (they hate The Culture!), and so on.

Use of Weapons, Consider Phlebas, and to a lesser degree Player of Games are mostly outsider perspectives of The Culture, so that warps judgement a little too.

IDK if Iain Banks could have made it clearer that Vavatch is non-Culture. I guess us only knowing drones and orbitals from The Culture made some readers conflate the two societies despite their extreme moral differences.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I also only 'read' as an audio book so i might missed a few details. I was not even referring to Vavtch. But the cia shit they pull in PoG.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Culture doesn't believe in non-interference. But it's not “CIA shit” if they're actually doing it to influence a society to become better rather than just pretending that that's the goal in order to take their oil.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

But that is just their idea of better.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Seriously. Vine ripe tomatoes are literally the best candy in the whole god damn world.

He's such a fucking fraud

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can bet he doesn't even knows how the inside of a store looks like, neither how a stores tomato tates like. His personal chef must source them from an specialty farm or even grow them itself without Musk even knowing about.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

both of his foods are cocaine and ketamine. and some dom perrignon.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 days ago

I could never get my sandwiches to flower

Yeah, home grown actually have flavour. The shit you buy in supermarkets mostly just tastes of water because it's been harvested too early and shipped halfway round the world. I got some really yummy orange cherry plants going at the mo, can't remember the variety but I've finally learned to get blight resistant varieties.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I’ve never gotten anything of significance from my grows. A Handful of tomatoes, shrunken zucchini. I don’t know how people produce anything that makes a dent in their grocery bills without significant cost and time investment. Do you own land? Are you working like a farmer?

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I live in a van on a disused carpark, so everything I grow has to be in pots. The key is regular feeding - I use an organic seaweed extract. Comfrey tea is good if you don't want to spend money, fuckin stinks tho.

Edit - eating some of my tomatoes right now, actually, with a bit of cheese. Yummy!

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I think the most classic rookie gardening mistake is thinking that plants only need water. They need nutrients just like the rest of us. By only giving plants water they basically starve to death when they have depleted their growing soil of nutrients.

[–] plateee@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

I use 15 gallon fabric planters successfully. Get a good indeterminate variety going and it'll take off.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Gardening is a skill like any other

A skill that can be learned and practiced to gwt better at.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not good at it by any means, but it's a process and it gets easier. I am also not at the point where it could save me money after year 1, but Ive learned and I can see it. The most important steps for me... First step, wait for snow and buy a greenhouse when it's super cheap, you will want bigger than you think. Greenhouses can also get too hot, figure out a plan for that. Second step, buy seeds for plants farmers actually grow in your climate not just the ones in the store. There are more varieties of individual plants than expected and ones bred for your climate will grow drastically better.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Try something like these for venting.

https://www.farmstandapp.com/364268/best-solar-vent-openers/

This was a quick search to give an idea of what is out there. I think the ones I got were <$40.