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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 87 points 3 days ago (6 children)

How do you lose money selling electric cars when two oil critical straits are blocaded

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

By having your CEO come out as a fascist, pissing off the demographic that tends to buy EVs and also stagnating while allowing your competitors to catch up.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly, their car sales are back up in Europe since unfortunately nobody has morals anymore. The real answer is "blowing your money on the next grift - AI and robotics"

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Supporting the election of rightwing oil sponsored Nazis that will cancel the subsidies on your vehicles is another way to lose profits.

I’m starting to wonder if Tesla doesn’t actually want to sell cars, and would rather rent rides like uber though, just like the rest of the late stage capitalist hellhole is trying to do.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sadly, their car sales are back up in Europe

Alas, the same in Australia and we have no tariffs on cars,. so plenty of options

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Also your vehicles rust in the rain, and focusing on making them "impenetrable" for some fucking reason so in an emergency people can't get out and burn to death.

[–] MattBlackAlien@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

By pivoting to humanoid robots and LLMs.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 days ago

However, the company's gross profits dropped as operating expenses climbed far quicker than revenue, in large part thanks to AI-related capital expenses and other research and development

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Teslas are objectively last Gen. The only reason they still sell well in the US and some other markets is tariffs.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago

Other US companies are actually competing with them for market share now, too. It certainly isn't helping Tesla sell.

Also, Teslas are starting to get the reputation they deserve: overpriced shitbox vehicles that have horrible build quality because Musk has stripped anything good out of them for profit.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

no tarrifs in Australia and alas they still sell well.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

Check out used EVs. We were just in the market and there a 10x the Teslas than the rest of the options on carmax. Not exaggerating.

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In the US, the market has soured on EVs and the federal tax credits have gone away.

Outside the US, China is eating their lunch.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The US has absolutely not soured on EVs, you need to read the headlines in your bubble more critically. The increasing rate at which EVs are selling in the US is increasing slightly less quickly. Which is all the oil company headlines need to spout bullshit.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, while there are some folks that are die-hard must have gas cars, lots of other folks experience instant torque, smoothest and quietest drive imaginable, and replenishing range without having to go out of your way to a station. Wondering when the next maintenance needs to come and there's no oil, no wearing belts, no super hot engine bay, just some things like wiper blades and a bit more rough on tires owing to generally higher weight.

There are downsides and awkward fits for some people. My apartment dwelling colleague would be screwed since his place has no available residential charging. Road trips can be more inconvient (though viable and perhaps worth it if you are taking a road trip every few months but spare yourself a weekly trip to the gas station). But certainly there's a market for which EVs provide more value than combustion vehicles.

[–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Currently it's cheaper to road trip on gas than electric, mainly because NACS supercharging is so expensive, currently around $0.70/kWh for non-Teslas at superchargers. Once the CCS chargers start converting to NACS prices will hopefully fall due to competition. Also gas prices seemed destined to go up more and once they climb to the mid $5's, electric pulls ahead again. An EV still makes sense overall because for most people most driving is not going to be road trips and so slightly higher costs for a road trip are going to be more than paid for due to local driving but unfortunately right now road trips are not a strength of EVs.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

Our home is 100% EV, its only two cars but its still a sweep!

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That makes sense because the country is ass backwards

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, yes we are.