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Massive Pixel 11 leak just revealed almost everything about Google's next phones (www.androidcentral.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by biscuit to c/android

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Google accidentally listed the entire Pixel 11 series on Amazon a month early, revealing pricing, specs, and colors.

Prices are rising by $100 across the board, with the base Pixel 11 now starting at $899 with 256GB of storage.
Google is hit by the memory crisis, with base Pro and Pro XL variants dropping to 12GB of RAM instead of 16GB.
The Pixel 11 Pro Fold starts at $1,899 but drops to a smaller 4,750mAh battery, down from last year's 5,000mAh.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Does anyone realistically use 16GB of memory on their phone? I think my Pixel 8a has 6GB and I think I'm alright?

[–] biscuit 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I notice apps closing on my Pixel 7 with 8GB every now and again, but it's totally not a big deal for me. I can imagine certain users who swap between Reddit, Instagram and some game want more RAM, but most users won't care or notice.

Part of it is longevity too, right? With phones being supported for longer and longer you kinda want more of a headroom as apps and OS become more RAM-heavy.

This 12GB limit probably isn't going to stop me from upgrading, but I certainly wont be paying MSRP.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apps will only keep getting ram hungry for little while due to inertia. But that era is over. Programmers got away with demanding more ram because ram was cheap. Each new device doubled or tripled their ram capacity every year. That era is over for good. Even if the LLMs bubble pops today, prices won't go down for the next decade at least. With these new devices—consoles, phones, computers—keeping or even reducing ram capacity from previous generations, developers have no choice but to hold back their ram race.

Add: eventually the developers will have to optimize or there will be no market capable of running the software.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hate it, but it's true.

When consumer prices tripled, sales didn't go down anywhere near the 2/3 where they'd only break even. Instead, sales only dropped 15-20%, so they got massive profit & revenue increases while providing less.

To the manufacturers, that's their signal that this is simply the new price.

[–] mellejwz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well in the case of Pixel phones there's Gemini that can use a lot for on device stuff. Apps can also use quite a bit nowadays, you can definitely see the difference between 6 and 12-16GB of ram.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I wouldn't have expected commercial AI assistants to compute a lot of stuff on device. For speed / response time reasons, and battery drain. Other than maybe speech recognition... Guess I'm not up to date anymore. I haven't tried Gemini. Most fancy stuff I use is speech recognition and Google Lens, respectively "Offline Translator" to translate Chinese, Japanese or Korean writing on products in the Asia supermarket. That app is perfectly alright with just the 6GB on my phone. But yeah, generative AI in form of a large language model or an image generator won't fit. I've tried a few other open-source local AI apps and it can't do any of the usable AI models.

[–] mellejwz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's mostly from the Pixel 10 and up.