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Google accidentally listed the entire Pixel 11 series on Amazon a month early, revealing pricing, specs, and colors.

  • Prices are rising by $100 across the board, with the base Pixel 11 now starting at $899 with 256GB of storage.

  • Google is hit by the memory crisis, with base Pro and Pro XL variants dropping to 12GB of RAM instead of 16GB.

  • The Pixel 11 Pro Fold starts at $1,899 but drops to a smaller 4,750mAh battery, down from last year's 5,000mAh.

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[–] biscuit 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I appreciate that they've dropped the 128GB model, but paying more for less RAM highlights the sad state of tech right now 💀

I held onto my Pixel 3 until I got the Pixel 7, and always said I'd wait for the 11. The 12GB RAM is still an upgrade over my 7's 8GB, at least.

Reminder: never buy Pixels at MSRP. There will be great trade-in deals and sales in November, then again in January.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My Pixel 7 is having a really hard time right now 🫤

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What are you running that you're feeling resource limitations?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The browser. And the keyboard.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Really? My old 6 pro still performs like it was new.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No problems with Ironfox. Don't use Vanadium much. Pixel tablet.

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[–] biscuit 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In what way? Battery life?

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[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

time for cleansing? I've got a P7pro on Graphene OS. Quite snappy

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The Pro is quite a bit more capable.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why?/Same processor and complaining about speed.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

This little thing called RAM

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'll keep my 9pro, thanks. Graphene OS putting in work.

[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

P7pro + GOS here. Snappy as it gets.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

7a GOS. A bit small, but works fine.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The feature I was looking for on the 8 pro was an extended support period for security updates. I'm running this thing until it dies. I hate getting rid of phones prematurely.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I broke my 8 pro and I miss it every day. It was a great phone. I liked it more than I like the 9. I bought the 9 on sale so I guess I can't be too mad.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago
[–] schwim@piefed.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't pay more for less memory, regardless of why it was explained that it was happening. Older Pixels with more memory would be a better performer for less money.

[–] biscuit 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I get that on the face of it it's a bad deal, but I don't think RAM capacity is the only factor in a phone's performance.

Given Pixel's longevity these days, I wouldn't expect Pixel 10 or even Pixel 9 users to be jumping to the 11 anyway.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Definitely not the only but with the memory heavy apps that I use, it's a huge factor.

I think I can probably get to the 12(used) before I decide to upgrade my 9. I'll pick one up once Graphene is released on it.

[–] biscuit 2 points 3 weeks ago

Do yourself a favour and just pay to replace your 9's battery. Would keep you going until the 13 or even 14. That's how I'm still using a Pixel 7 today.

I mainly want to upgrade for the improvements to the display, and for integrated MagSafe.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So basically by keeping your Pixel 10 you're getting an upgrade over the new Pixel 11. Now, who said Google wasn't consumer friendly?

[–] nek0d3r@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm definitely gonna creep on Swappa for a 10 fold once the 11 is out 🤩

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Does anyone realistically use 16GB of memory on their phone? I think my Pixel 8a has 6GB and I think I'm alright?

[–] biscuit 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I notice apps closing on my Pixel 7 with 8GB every now and again, but it's totally not a big deal for me. I can imagine certain users who swap between Reddit, Instagram and some game want more RAM, but most users won't care or notice.

Part of it is longevity too, right? With phones being supported for longer and longer you kinda want more of a headroom as apps and OS become more RAM-heavy.

This 12GB limit probably isn't going to stop me from upgrading, but I certainly wont be paying MSRP.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apps will only keep getting ram hungry for little while due to inertia. But that era is over. Programmers got away with demanding more ram because ram was cheap. Each new device doubled or tripled their ram capacity every year. That era is over for good. Even if the LLMs bubble pops today, prices won't go down for the next decade at least. With these new devices—consoles, phones, computers—keeping or even reducing ram capacity from previous generations, developers have no choice but to hold back their ram race.

Add: eventually the developers will have to optimize or there will be no market capable of running the software.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago

I hate it, but it's true.

When consumer prices tripled, sales didn't go down anywhere near the 2/3 where they'd only break even. Instead, sales only dropped 15-20%, so they got massive profit & revenue increases while providing less.

To the manufacturers, that's their signal that this is simply the new price.

[–] mellejwz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well in the case of Pixel phones there's Gemini that can use a lot for on device stuff. Apps can also use quite a bit nowadays, you can definitely see the difference between 6 and 12-16GB of ram.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Less battery on pixel fold is pretty horrible, considering the Razr Fold now has 6000 mah.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We really need to normalize using amp hours instead of listing values of thousand of miliamp hours.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Petty,I like it.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 6 points 3 weeks ago

We really need to normalize using watt hours

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

watt-hours*

For some reason we use watt-hours for laptops but haven't managed to figure out how to do the same for "phones".

[–] porcelainpitcher@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's a mad battery. Not a lot of reasons so far to not go Motorola....

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Still rocking the iPhone X, and wondering if I can hold out until their 20 year anniversary phone next year…. But GrapheneOS on a Pixel is tempting.

[–] biscuit 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't that iPhone out of support?

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yup 9 years old and still working though, banking apps still work but a number of apps I used to occasionally use are no longer working, but nothing critical.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have a Pixel 10 and it is by far the most bug-ridden phone I've ever had. I thought Oneplus was bad...

It's no wonder that most Google employees use Iphones.

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