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Just normal vassal behavior
US states do this all the time. Chud cops love arresting democrat lawmakers who are Just Asking Questions around ICE facilities and shit.
You love making this post-ironic ZOG "the tail sure isn't wagging the dog" comment on every post about Isn'treal, but you're not really making a useful observation any time you do. The Zionist project isn't a vassal state in the same way that EU nations are, they're a settler colonial project of the US and should be considered more like one of the hands of the US government in the same way that the Republic of Texas was.
Yeah, it's an extension of the US. They're the same entity.
Yeah. Us relation to Israel is like Israel's relation to their own settlers. A bunch of maniacs who were nurtured and coddled for decades, because having them available as deniable shock troops and also sin-eaters was a valuable relationship.
But now both are so deep in their own propaganda that they've become a net negative to the overall project, an irrational element that needs to have discipline imposed. Except the situation has festered so long that it's become risky to do so, and we're ruled by cowards who can no longer maintain their own system, so they'll just put up with it until it becomes an acute crisis. Or maybe not, maybe this is still within the bounds of the kayfabe, but it feels like it's no longer contained like it used to be.
Exactly! Israel should be thought of as the 51st state, not a vassal state.
I love pointing out that it isn't a subservient master slave relationship, because it isn't, and I am extremely frustrated by people who look at the epstein stuff and refuse to acknowledge even a single implication of it complicating any potential master- slave vassal relationship, because it does. Thanks for implying im an antisemite for it i guess, even though israel isn't The Jews, it's a country with its own interests and intelligence agencies doing their own shit
Edit: i like you but i can't deal with this shit right now. "It's problematic to point out Israel has mossad and interests" hmmm yeah sure
But you didn't do that. Instead, you wrote "just normal vassal state behaviour", and like it or not, that phrasing suggests that you don't consider Israel a vassal state at all. That's typically, or at least very often, what people mean when they use that phrasing, AND it's common for chuds to try and sneak ZOG rhetoric into discussion so people are hyper aware of it. Just take the L, you accidentally said something that is easily read differently to what you intended. It's a text medium, this shit happens sometimes.
Or perhaps i've seen enough of these conversations to see how it always turns out with people who explicitly state that israel is just the u.s.'s dog/aircraft carrier/ etc and want to just leave it as "JUST NORMAL VASSAL BEHAVIOR" at whatever story/news bit that shows that's clearly not the case which pops up literally every 4-5 days
Fuck you
It's not a master-slave relationship. Think of Israel as another agency of American government, Central Israel Agency, so to speak.
Wow sounds like i'm entirely right to point out how it isn't a normal vassal relationship then thanks for the support
You're not doing yourself any favors with your wording.
To provide an adjacent example, when white people are told that they have said something racist a common knee-jerk response is the thought-terminating statement, "I'm not racist!" Not sincerely holding racist or antisemitic beliefs doesn't preclude someone from saying something that's racist or antisemitic.
I don't think you're an anti-Semite, I'm asking you to dig a little deeper and keep cooking on your analysis because the statement you keep making is problematic particularly with the sort of blanket use you're giving it.
Okay, what's wrong with the wording there, because all I am doing is saying "this is not normal vassal behavior," which it isn't. I think of Ukraine or Saudi Arabia or any European state as being "a normal vassal." I think if some congress dipshit went to any of those places and got arrested for nothing it would be somewhat of an incident which would result in their release and at least an apology. In this case, he's arrested by a paramilitary and then when the actual military shows up, they side with them.
We both know that Israel intentionally and purposefully conflates its jewish population with The Jewish Identity to the point that they nearly 24/7 make accusations of antisemitism towards any criticism of israel so I really don't appreciate being implied to be an antisemite even as you acknowledge the basic premise of my argument (that Israel has and uses numerous methods to increase its influence over the U.S. government for self serving purposes, which should be entirely unnecessary if The Israeli Project is critical to the U.S.'s designs to begin with)
That's what you intended to say but people are clearly reading it as saying that Israel isn't a vassal state of the USA at all. It's the more obvious reading to me and clearly to a lot of other people as well. Just be less ambiguous in your wording and you won't get people up your ass about it, or at least if you do the majority of people are likely to have your back.
What the fuck has possibly been ambiguous about literally anything that i've said except for the initial "just normal vassal behavior" which Ive backed up at great length?
Seriously fuck you, "take the L" dawg L my fucking dick