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That is NOT true. Voting for a Democrat that does nothing is just as bad. Not only would they do nothing to reverse the damage, they have actively taken votes that would have been better used on a politician that actually cares.
A lot of people will blindly vote for the person with a D next to their name. The Democratic party is purposely not putting the best candidates forward. There needs to be more awareness of who the duds are and either vote them out or not vote them in.
If Newsom is the Democrat candidate in 2028, I think that's an alright outcome. I think he would be a better president than Trump. Not just because he has a "D" next to his name, but instead because his viewpoints seem more rational and fair than those of Trump.
Some people might think that Newsom isn't progressive enough, but whoever is the Democrat candidate, they need to have broad enough appeal to win a national election. If the candidate is someone who is very progressive then they might alienate a lot of centrist voters and fail to win a national election.
Sure vlad, that’s what you trolls and bots said last time. Now america is a quickly falling into dictatorship. Shouldn’t you go hamster some fuel ?
Everything is better then a fascist - saying otherwise is supporting fascism. You are either a foreign actor or stupid
Good luck convincing anyone who has eyes and a brain
Dude lemmy eats this shit up like a fat kid getting after a cupcake.
To make sure trump remains in power? Idiots
And that's how people like Trump become president. Pure and simple.
Sometimes the lesser of two evils is quite a lot less fucking evil.
The problem as I see it is that you and the other posters here have fallen for the moving goalposts. "Shit is ok - at least it isn't vomit." That is such a poor and defeatist mentality to have. It isn't a bad thing to want more. Don't be OK with "the lesser of two evils". Fight for at least one good candidate. Hold your party accountable for choosing awful candidates that don't have the people's best interests at heart.
I have voted for the lesser of two evils, and I will continue to do so. That won't stop me from asking for better, and it will not change my mind that inaction in a bad situation is no better than doing bad things.
That's what primaries are for.
Like it or not, we live in a two-party system. The electoral college and the congressional rules make it so. We can either make it work, or we can give up.
I'm going to vote for the leftist, most progressive person i can in the primaries. But when that fails, I'm going to vote for the democrat on the ticket because even the worst democrat is better than the best republican at this point.
We can't afford another 4 years of Trump-Light in JD Vance.. Millions of people have already died as a result of Trump getting back in this time... and more people will die, and it will be marginalized people. People of Color, Trans people, immigrants. As in real death.
Not Voting has real consequences.
Primaries are where you decide. After that, you choose the least worst. And sorry, a "Democrat that does nothing" is not just as bad as open fascism.
Neither is a 3rd party candidate.
No 3rd party candidate will win a General Election unless something changes in the way the Is voting system works. Voting for a 3rd party is literally throwing your vote away at best, or helping the Republicans at worst.
It’s either naivety or intentional disinformation to spout otherwise.
so in your worldview does voting Libertarian hurt the Republicans and/or Does it help the Democrats?
Are you actually asking this? You actually don't understand how spoiler candidates happen in US democracy?
And they have next to no chance of winning.
Let's follow that thought. Why do you think that?
For one thing, there is no serious third party. For another: history.
If we had ranked choice voting, it might be different. If Democratic Socialists want to run in and win primaries and run as Democrats, hey, great.
I am not throwing away my vote in the general for some unserious party like the Green Party (which is probably just a cutout anyway) who runs a candidate at the national level every 4 years and does next to nothing at the local level.
it's not "throwing away your vote" it puts on record that your willing to vote just not for the major party candidates. Not voting is "throwing your vote away." Voting for someone you don't like and winning --That's throwing your vote away.
Cool. Let's peel off just enough Democratic votes to ~~throw away~~ put into some column C that is going into a record, while we install the next Trump, dutifully carrying out the next iteration of Project 2025.
I'm sure that'll show 'em. We will all take solace in the fact that we can....point to the third party votes that are on the record while the conservatives have several more years of free reign to utterly destroy the country.
So just like last time, not gonna vote if they aren't perfect?
It’s what the GOP and Russia wants you to do
Is enthusiastic support for genocide "not perfect" to you?
Ahh, so the genocide is better now right? And there isn't anything else happening in the whole world outside of Gaza right? And none of those things are worse than they would have been, right? Kamala would be 2 billion dollars more wealthy too, right? ICE would have been violently deployed in multiple US cities right? Alex Pretti would still be dead right? The reflecting pool would still be peeling blue paint and people would be arrested for touching it right? There obviously would still have been a UFC fight on the White House lawn right? I feel like I could keep going for a while but it really boils down to one point.
Shut the fuck up you insolent child.
Its not a child. These are bots or trolls that try to help the trump regime
That is one hell of a conclusion you jumped to. If you actually read my post you would see I am AGAINST inaction. Go karma rage bait elsewhere. This shit doesn't contribute to the conversation.
Inaction would be better since your action gets republicans elected.
Yeah they will throw us under the buss again.
Gee, I wonder why the fascists are in office.
Because the DNC is completely incapable of fielding a candidate that can clear even the miniscule bar set by the Republicans.
Chuck Schumer never endorsed Mamdani, not even after he was the official Democratic nominee, running against Andrew Cuomo. Shit like that is why the fascists are in office.
The people running the purity tests for their purity ponies sure did not help...
because the moderates are too determined to screw over the progressives.
Then support and vote for the progressives you want in the primaries, but once it gets to the general, whining “I wish it was so-and-so instead” does nothing.
Maybe, if you're a Democrat^®^
Under normal circumstances I'd be inclined to agree but these are not normal circumstances.
so they say every 2-4 years.
You think Trump term 2 is just as bad as Bush? Even trump term 1 was not this bad.
That's dumb
Care to elaborate?