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The Inside story of Leverage Research

This should be interesting, it's about an organisation in the EA milieu that even other EAs though might be a bit too culty. Don't know who the writer Lydia Laurenson is, but she does come off as a bit of a cult enthusiast herself, and is probably more than a bit rationalist adjacent.

edit: The companion piece about the background of why she wrote it is quite a ride, if only for the biographical tidbits: she is indeed very cult adjacent, she had a spiritual experience and now believes in capital G god, she got engaged to an unnamed far-right writer but they broke up when she got pregnant.

Also the Leverage article was contracted to appear in the New York Magazine but she pulled the story because of uh declining trust in the field of journalism, but then she goes on to imply that the real problem was that the article was shaping up as a bit too pro-Leverage:

I pulled the story once I started feeling like it simply wouldn’t be possible for me to publish a version with NYMag that didn’t carry a subtle hostility towards Leverage, not to mention affiliated communities in Silicon Valley — and, more importantly to me, hostility towards a core spiritual sensibility that I see in both myself and in the people the story describes.

edit edit: Why can't these people ever be normal: Why I Was Part Of The Neoreactionary or Dissident Right Movement In 2020

edit edit edit: Jesus fucking christ she's Curtis Yarvin's baby momma.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me, catching up with the edits: wow that escalated quickly

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

butbutbut she's above the trivial politics:

These days I’m not aligned with any of the main USA political movements, not Red Tribe and not Blue Tribe. It’s hard to place myself among named political groups, even niche ones. When I talk about the larger landscape, I generally use the phrases “Red Tribe” and “Blue Tribe,” which are common in my Bay Area social context (as opposed to words like “conservative”-“right” or “liberal”-“left”). I use those phrases because they signify the cultural boundaries differentiating these groups.

(from the “why i was part of the neoreactionary” etc. etc.)

[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 1 points 8 hours ago

Turns out 'Grey Tribe' was a glorified NPC Wojak But Rationalist^TM^

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

which are common in my Bay Area social context

I just went to a party in the Bay Area last night, and nobody talked like this. Perhaps she's eliding some other, more trenchant details about her social circles?

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 1 points 23 hours ago

for an entirely inexplicable reason it reminded me of balaji srinivasan.