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The political right hates AI a little less than the left, but not by super much, and some forces from the emerging America First movement are getting ready to protest AI's invasiveness and capacity for manipulation. The org is called Humans First, and they're trying to have a 50501-style nationwide protest about it on July 18th. If both sides cooperate on this one, good things can actually happen, so this should get talked about. A lot. https://www.humansfirst.com/

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 53 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Man, even when they're doing something good, they still have to frame it as "I come first!"

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Conservatives categorically lack the brain capacity to consider others, never mind put them first.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Seems more like a lack of empathy than brain capacity. Moral and intellectual defects are not the same.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Actually there's a fair amount of emerging neuroscience that shows that the brains of people with conservatives worldviews have lowered activity in the regions that process empathy, lowered activity in the regions that engage and resolve conflicts , and biased towards feeling threatened in a safe situation.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Of course moral reasoning shows up in a brain scan if materialism is true. The important point was about something a person is responsible for versus not.

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We do though. The entire lexicon of racism is ripe to be repurposed for shit-talking AI, because clankers literally aren't people and they actually do make society worse. For the first time in human history, there is something out there that it is morally correct to be bigoted at. I think the slogan also carries the subtle implication that the people behind AI aren't totally human too, which is great. Fuck clankers.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but "clankers" aren't a thing. AI isn't sentient, the humans creating and pushing AI are. They're our real enemies. Being angry at "clankers" is like seeing a guy coming at you with a knife and punching the knife.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought "clankers" were the people using the slop machines.

"Sloppers" is also a good word for them.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Ah, in that case we're on the same page. I thought "clankers" was a term people were using to "put down" AI clients themselves, as if they had the ability to feel bad. Still, though, it means that the "humans first" idea breaks down, because it's still just humans vs other humans.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think you were right about clankers referring to the AI. It’s clear in the root comment that’s what they mean when they say “they literally aren’t people”. Also, it is common slang for robots in various media including, I think, Star Wars.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I guess it might be used both ways? Which is silly, the chatbots aren't going to get their feelings hurt by name calling.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I always thought it was a strange term. I like the term "sloppers" to refer to the people using AI, though. Makes more sense to me.

[–] Epp@lemmus.org 1 points 43 minutes ago

So it's settled, Sloppers on one side, Luddites on the other.