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Palm oil is a butter substitute. Every baked product at the grocery store that used to be made with butter is now made with palm oil, because it is cheaper. Palm oil is made up of long highly-saturated fatty acids that cause it to be solid at room temperature, giving it physical properties very similar to butter, making it suitable as a substitute. However saturated fatty acids are bad for your health. Butter is also saturated fat and is also somewhat bad, but palm oil is much worse because the varieties of fatty acids it contains are much different from animal fat fatty acids and the human body metabolizes them differently, so they have a much higher impact. Similar physical properties but worse health properties!

It is nearly impossible to find frozen baked goods that are still made with butter. This pie claims to be made with healthy ingredients, and specifically touts its butter content, but it conveniently omits mentioning palm oil entirely. Since palm oil appears first on the ingredients list before butter, that means there is more of it. Possibly almost the entire "butter-like" fraction of the pie consists of palm oil.

This pie alone contains 400% daily value saturated fat, which is terrible for long-term health. I love apple pies and I was planning to eat this pie as my sole food over the course of 2 days for my One-Meal-A-Day (OMAD), but I'm not willing to risk eating palm oil. Thanks for nothing for getting my hopes up, pie box!

  • traditional wholesome German ingredients like palm oil
  • palm oil - just the way grandma used to make at home
  • contains memories of butter

I'm sure someone below will mention how palm oil is also bad for the environment and bad for the farmers and bad for the economy. I will only be answering questions about the film Rampart.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The better question is - what's the ethical alternative? Every other plant oil uses far more land to grow

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You seem very insistent on ignoring the fact that different kinds of land have different levels of environmental impact when it comes to farming.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Does that make up for 10x the land usage?

Everybody else seems very insistent on ignoring the different yields of the various plant oils.

Also, as far as I'm concerned it's just the latest stage of colonialism. First we got exploited by western powers, now we get told we can't develop our countries. Never mind Europe having destroyed all their wilderness in the process of industrialisation, we've somehow been designated the global nature reserve.

You want the land to be left alone? Pay us. No? Are we still just a colony of the west then?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most people consider learning from the previous mistakes of others to be a virtue and a sign of intelligence.

It's easy to say that when your country is currently experiencing a higher standard of living due to those mistakes. Give us the same standard of living and we'll talk.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

idk, but i think if there was a more ethical alternative most companies would switch to that

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

No company gives a fuck about ethics. They aren't people. Some people at a company might, but they would have to overwhelm the profit motive. That's exceptionally rare.

Precisely, there aren't really any practical options, despite the numerous complaints.