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[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 71 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I’m tired boss…..

Just when you think you find good companies to support they end up being run by shitbags.

Ok, where to next for my VPN needs?

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I highly doubt you'll find any company composed solely of people that support ideologies you agree with. I know that sounds flippant and dismissive but ultimately we should support the best options we have. Or I guess you can roll your own solution and trust that you have the skills to stay ahead of the opposition.

[–] gointhefridge@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not using a VPN feeds other companies valuable data. Or are you suggesting we all become hermits on public land?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What info?

If you encryption & use DoH for DNS resolution, they can see the IPs you are connecting to, yes a sufficiently motivated ISP can use reverse DNS lookups to tell what sites you are accessing, but if you're ISP is that bad, find a new one.

do you trust your ISP or some guy that donated to political parties that want to kick out immigrants more?

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

There are many parts of the world where the ISPs really are that bad, and consumers don't have the choice to switch to a competitor that isn't equally bad.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Switch to what, starlink? Because that's the only other option for the majority of rural America. You think this issue, Elon musk, or my Trump ass kissing aligned isp is the lesser evil?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Sometimes a VPN is more trustworthy, it's just wild that people think they are always better, giving money to the main guy funding a far-right party or Comcast, seems like an easy call.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

There's a big difference between a CEO that openly hates unions and has affairs vs a CEO that's literally keeping a bunch of Nazis afloat and giving them an outsized voice.

Also, there's no best option when it comes to Nazis because if you give them an inch, they'll subvert democracy and human decency.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I guess there is a difference between the founder being a shit head and one of the rank and file being a shit head. Would be nice if just a few of the CEO class weren't psychopaths.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

I agree, but there's a difference between simply differing opinion and dumping a boat load of money, presumably some of it from Mullvad subscriptions, into a party that advocates for "remigration". If the dude just had some weird opinions I wouldn't necessarily switch, but I don't like the idea of my money directly helping with helping the far right. Honestly, I wouldn't even remotely care enough if one of the founders was part of a "normal" European neoliberal or conservative party, I have plenty of friends across the political spectrum. But I don't like giving extremists my momey

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

In particular, privacy-oriented services seem to occupy an amoral zone. Probably because if you’re truly going to deliver on privacy promises, you have to be okay with giving them to everybody, including nefarious people doing bad things with them.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely ", unfortunately. I heard that studies have shown the neurophysiology of a person changes the longer they are in power and influence.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That's interesting, but did they control for becoming a raging K-head?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the response makes it obvious that a company is not it's co-CEO, and a co-CEO is not a company.

Granted a tiny amount of your fees may make their way to a political party you vehemently oppose, but I think you're also supporting a lot of other people in the organisation that are on your side.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not a "tiny" amount of money, this dude is the CEO who makes all of the money in the company and any money going to Nazis is problematic especially when the Nazis in question are almost fully funded by this CEO and yes the CEO is the face and moral driver of a company.

Pretty ironic saying the company supports free speech when the biggest money maker is bankrolling a group that specifically gasses free speech and I doubt the other working there have even a sliver of speech that the CEO does.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago

Before your fee gets into a CEOs hands it pays for people's salaries and the costs of the company. That's what I mean by a tiny amount. It's only what's left after that that the CEO can benefit from.