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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

We're taking about morally good and bad here.

Killing people in self defense might be necessary, but that doesn't make it good.

Killing people is morally bad, even if it's someone no one in their right mind would hesitate to murder if given the opportunity, like Putin.

[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with the first person about morality determining how to respond socially. For example, why is killing someone in self defense necessary? Why shouldn't you just run? Responding to violence with violence could be bad if someone else thinks that you weren't in enough legitimate danger. Similarly, is it ok to kill if you are protecting someone else? What if the person you were protecting did not feel that killing was necessary?

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

might be necessary

If it's truly necessary, there's no option to run - no alternatives - it's your life or theirs.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We’re taking about morally good and bad here.

Morality varies widely by individual and culture.

Killing people is morally bad

Pro-Life folks have been saying this for decades.

Ffs, Zionists have been saying this.

You need more than just platitudes to build a moral foundation

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Regardless, ancient scripture is no foundation for morality. It's simply what people came up with thousands of years ago before moral foundations got properly built. It took all that time to develop because tradition held humanity back.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

ancient scripture is no foundation for morality

By what standard?

It’s simply what people came up with thousands of years ago before moral foundations got properly built

  • Killing people is wrong. This is an immortal and unquestionable truth that everyone has always agreed upon

  • We didn't have a proper moral foundation until very recently, so disregard everything older than several hundred years ago.

What?