I think what you said in whole cannot be stressed enough. Indiscriminate killing in Korea and Vietnam is what got us in this mess in the first place. Even if you don't say post WW2 one can say that elevating warfare to its natural conclusion makes the people who did it go "we should make some rules".

I've had this pocket theory disciplined by 0 actual theory that perhaps being too high, fat, and depressed to do warfare is the moral arc of the universe bending towards justice. It's all "men used to go to war" but most everybody who's ever been seems keen on not continuing to do it for its own sake. Hurting people sucks and no matter how much you dehumanize them nobody sans 3 or 4 fuckos seems to relish in causing death.

The way war is done now is absolutely a response to how it has been done and the super structure around them. Nobody worth their salt is accusing people of not murdering hard enough

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the IOF seems pretty gleeful, but i don't know how much stock to take in the occasional reporting we hear about trash taking itself out

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can cite that there are IDF soldiers who do the atrocities who absolutely suffer the ghosts of the people they torture and the morbidity and mortality that comes with it.

And the glee around them is absolutely fucked up. You'll never see me calling isntrael a well-adjusted culture.