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You're right. The state does literally discriminate based on ethnicity.
The right don't care about carrying weapons. In fact they love carrying weapons.
Take your selective outrage to someone more gullible. You're distracting from the epstein class robbing us blind.
So yeah, I'm fine with it. Show me facts that kirpan stabbings are a problem in the uk, they're not.
So u think x is ok cause y is worse ??? Are u sure about that ?
'So you think'is almost always followed by disingenuous arguments, no change here. I like to focus on real, measurable problems, not knee jerk whenever some rich cunt wants to distract me. Why are you so selectively outraged?
Selectively outraged by police actions. Selectively outraged by who is carrying weapons. You should think about why you're so easy to manipulate.
Why u dont answer my simple question ? It s outrageous to have an exception regarding permit to carry weapon whatever religion involved. Why you think I should be ok with that ?
I told you, this isn't a serious question asked by a serious person, discussing a serious problem. It's a distraction from the Epstein class robbing you blind.
You don't really care about police actions, else your discussion would be very different. You don't really care about people carrying weapons, else your discussion would be very different. Edit, I said you here, I meant the right at large. In sure you do, you're very outraged in this moment, it's been happening for decades, to other people, but you're outraged right now, in this moment.
You can be outraged by whatever you want. Well, you can be outraged by whatever the Epstein class wants you to be outraged by. You are, beautifully distracted as they pilfer your pockets. Feeling poorer recently? The rich aren't, where do you think they got that money?
Because it's literally not a measurable problem. Take it to someone more gullible.
lmao u can claim anything isnt a real concern cause it s not the epstein class ? can i do the same regarding other topics ?
That's how burden of proof works. If you want to claim something is a problem you have to prove it: with proof. That's why I linked to an article discussing an actual report about actual and measurable discrimination in the police force. That's why I linked to an actual article showing the right don't really care about weapons, they carry them when they want. That's why I linked to an actual article showing you the Epstein class are robbing you blind.
You can tell me you are outraged all you want. Show me an actual study that says kirpans, in particular, are used for stabbings all over the land.
Me: you're selectively outraged here's how, here's why.
You: can I be selectively outraged about other topics?
I'm sure you can, I'm sure you are. You'll be outraged by whatever the Epstein class tells you to be outraged about.
Somone got litteraly killed because of that exception. that s my proof.
Just one is enough and tbh that exception should have never happened in the first place. I have no idea how you can justify something being obviously bad cause it doesnt correspond to your arbitrary criteria.
How is it a right wing take to said religious exception to carry weapon is fucking dumb ????????
'Just one is enough' when it comes to Sikhs, but no one, and nothing else it seems.
Care to explain that little bit of bias? 'Just one is enough', just shows how selectively outraged you are. For example 12 people were murdered using firearms in 2025... Just one is enough... No outrage.
You can't lean on 'state discrimination', we already established you don't really give two shits about state discrimination. You can't lean on 'deadly weapons', we already established you don't really give two shits about deadly weapons.
... I don't know what to tell you: you have your outrage, and I'm not convinced by your outrage.
Show me meaningful data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem and I'll be convinced. I've shown you how to convince me, you can do it at any time.
Your turn, what would convince you that the Epstein class are just boosting this story so you're annoyed at Sikhs and not them? Is it that Farage is connected to Trump (of epstein fame) and Farage is boosting this story?
u arent real. Yeah one murder that should have been prevented and wasnt bc of a stupid law is enough to say the law is stupid. Are you having issue undersatnding this ?
No we havent and it wasnt even the subject.
just tell me why a religious exception for carrying a weapon isnt an issue ? All you said was something related to epstein that isnt even the subject. You also said it was a right wing take. Omg
Gain saying isn't an argument
I've told you what would convince me: show me data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem murder weapon in the UK. I'm waiting, you can do it at any time. The power to convince me is in your hands, you just refuse to do it.
That's a reasonable ask I think. I believe the UK does have an issue of discrimination based on ethnicity due to data. Makes sense to apply the same standard to kirpans.
That's right, I did say it was a distraction by the Epstein class to distract you. Oh boy have they got you distracted.
I then showed you what you're being distracted from.
It's a common MO. That's why Farage, with significant ties to the Epstein class, is banging on about it. It's why the media, owned by the Epstein class, is banging on about it.
Look, we aren't getting anywhere. You have your outrage that I don't think is convincing. I have my data, that you don't think is convincing. Ultimate
Do u realize you said that in the litteral convo that is about a murder made by a kirpan ? what data do u need ?
Your shizo rant about subject that have nothing to do with this matter is detrimental to what you think u defend.
I am sorry for this, data is not one case. Data is a collection of information used to inform decisions. Look at the report I linked showing discrimination from british police, you see how it's informed by more than a single case? I thought you knew what 'data' was, that's my bad. Singular is datum, I really wish the right wing would assimilate and learn English.
If we're going by single cases, Jo Cox would have justified us pushing every right wing person into the sea. That's bad right, you understand how knee jerking over one case is bad?
Oh look, 'just one is enough'. Not for you, not really.
If anyone wanted any more proof of how disingenuous you are: I have repeatedly told you what would convince me, you haven't done the same.
just tell me how a legal exception to carry weapon based on religous belief is fair ? u are the one incapable to answer that simple question so you conitnue to derail the conv in any direction to not answer that simple question
Then you retreat back to distracting from the Epstein class robbing you blind. No, I'm not falling for your, culture war, outrage nonsense. Take it to someone more gullible. You want to discuss an actual, and measurable problem in the UK? Wealth inequality is right there. Let's talk about actual problems facing our country, or are you going to continue to run cover for the Epstein class?
Oh look more right-epstein class connections
You have shown you do not care about discrimination based on ethnicity. You have shown you do not care about deadly weapons. You have shown your 'just one is enough' was empty grandstanding, or worse targeted against Sikhs. You do not care about political murders. You are incapable of discussing anything in good faith.
I do not care that Sikhs have kirpans, I have expressed that many times. I've told you what would convince me otherwise, because I am convincable. You are welcome to convince me otherwise at any time.
Tell me, did you just learn what 'data' meant today?
Then you dont care about ppl being abble to carry weapon cause the law made them being abble bc of their religous belief. And so if you are stupid enough to support this then im pretty sure you have nothing to said about anything.
The person that didn't know what 'data' meant is in an awfully glass house throwing words like 'stupid' around.
Yawn. I've told you what would convince me otherwise. You can provide it at anytime, and I'll change my opinion. Because apparently, it's stupid people that form their opinions based on data.
Or, you can keep running defence for the epstein class with this silly culture war nonsense.
Lmao
Na you don't understand my religion allow me everything you accuse me off
D u have data to tell me if it s bad that I do it ? Dont seem like So you bad
Well, that was unhinged. Once again, you show how disingenuous you are.
Anyways, I've told you what would convince me otherwise. You can provide it at anytime, and I’ll change my opinion.
Or, you can keep running defence for the epstein class with this silly culture war nonsense.
Religion can be unhinged no way are u trying to distract us from the fact that the esptein class want u enslave ? Dont u have data about you not being an Epstein class ? U seem very sus
Did you just 'no u'? Imagine getting so mad because someone asked for proof of something. Facts, not fee fees right?
Anyways, I’ve told you what would convince me otherwise. You can provide it at anytime, and I’ll change my opinion.
Or, you can keep running defence for the epstein class with this silly culture war nonsense.
Silly culture war and it s litteraly religious exemption for carrying weapon. Bruh How can I convince you it s dumb ? You should be abble to know it s dumb. If you are incapable of that no convincing can happen cause you r too dumb to understand basic stuff.
Me: here's what would convince me otherwise. You can provide it at anytime, and I’ll change my opinion.
You: How can I convince you it s dumb ?
Awfully, glass house you're in.
Anyways:
You have shown you do not care about discrimination based on ethnicity. You have shown you do not care about deadly weapons. You have shown your ‘just one is enough’ was empty grandstanding, or worse targeted against Sikhs. You do not care about political murders. You are incapable of discussing anything in good faith.
Or you can keep running defence for the epstein. Class. I'm gonna be honest. This was only productive to show just how disingenuous you are, that's done now. Then it was a little entertaining, but now you're boring.
You're going to have to either provide some data to change my opinion, or be more entertaining if you want my attention again.
You enjoy your outrage, stay mad. I think I'm going to try donate to Langer. Do they take cash donations? They do! You could be big mad, or feed some people I know 'data' was a long word for you, so I provided a link.
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