this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2026
332 points (100.0% liked)

World News

56394 readers
1991 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm surprised Visa and Mastercard were allowed to operate in Cuba before this. Most US financial companies don't serve the five countries on the US's naughty list: Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, and Russia.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It was likely part of the veradero tourist project Fidel worked out when they relaxed some rules to build more tourism. Cuba used to have a domestic currency and an international currency that was just 1:1 whatever the USD was trading at. I think they already abandoned that years ago

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Those two companies have a lot more power and influence than I think they actually want anyone to grasp

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (29 children)

Should be 100% nonprofit and owned by the public. Totally worthless to humanity that they remain as businesses.

Most of what they do should just be FOSS anyway or the equivalent.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Or at least, diversified so it's not only those two, and there's a multitude of options.

A fair few countries do that, for example, with payment being diversified into other systems like Alipay, and the other QR-based payment systems. Australia has EFTPOS, HK lets you use your Octopus to buy things in addition to paying for the train fare.

Otherwise, you'd be in trouble if MasterCard/Visa decided that they didn't like something you did very much, so you're barred from their services.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago
load more comments (27 replies)
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm glad most countries are developing their own national payment systems to get away from those leeches. The US central bank actually developed its own instant payment system called FedNow but you've probably never heard of it. Wonder why? Because participation is voluntary and banks aren't required to give their customers access to it...

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I actually have! And for more fun this admin is currently trying to fuck with FedNow, becuase of course they are

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't even want us to have a post office, you think they're going to let us get rid of way to siphon off a solid percentage of every transaction?

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

No but they could make it even worse!

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm also kinda surprised cuba apparently allowed them to operate there? There are few companies that more thoroughly exemplify the imperialist state than those two.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I had to guess, it's because Cuba had tourism.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, yes. The Americans have money. People like earning that money.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not the Americans, it's the everyone else. We aren't allowed to go to Cuba

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

This doesn't prevent Americans from going to Cuba. I can book tickets right now online from New York to Havana for $550.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Nestlé? Amazon? HSBC? The fucking VOC?

Come on, there are a lot of evil companies but it's crazy to pretend Visa and Mastercard are somehow the worst of them.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there are a lot of evil companies

All of them, as long as their only reason to exist is to chase profit above anything else

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well sometimes in their pursuit of making money, their interests coincidentally align with those of the public and they make the world a better place as a result.

For example, Valve trying to protect their market dominance in the PC gaming industry has resulted in large improvements to game distribution, consumer protection, and convenience for computer game players.

Another example is the mail order drug company owned by Mark Cuban (the billionaire). He's making buckets of money from it, but their profit model is to cut out the insurers to buy drugs from manufacturers at wholesale prices and sell them for cheap. So the medicines he sells are drastically cheaper. I actually am a beneficiary of this. I normally buy my medication from his company for $5 a bottle but one time I spilled it and had to get a refill from a local grocery store pharmacy which cost $100 a bottle (insurance paid $85).

But at least the pills from the grocery store pharmacy were blackberry flavour.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well sometimes in their pursuit of making money, their interests coincidentally align with those of the public and they make the world a better place as a result.

And this happens purely by chance, and always temporarily. As soon as it is financially better for them to throw you to the wolves that's what they'll do next

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Sometimes. But even if it is temporary, it's still good while it lasts.

Nothing too deep about it. That's the whole thought.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

... The dutch east india company hasn't been relevant for more than 200 years, but like fair enough. If you want to have "capitalist megacorp fightclub" that could absolutely be one of those few I mentioned. I'm gonna defend that "the primary architects of the global financial transaction system" are good entries onto the list though...

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like if you want to blame a company for creating the modern financial system, John Pierpont Morgan and the company which bears his name are probably 10x more responsible.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And that company isn't even a little bit relevant right now, nor has my intent ever been to figure out which company is the "most to blame". But neat, thanks for sharing your opinion, I will continue to consider Visa and Mastercard to be among the few absolute worst offenders.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

J. P. Morgan is absolutely relevant in the modern day.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

... J P Morgan Chase is not relevant right now because this is an article about Visa and Mastercard.