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Latitude doesn't affect when the Sun is at the peak, it affects how high the sun is when it is at the peak.
And when I am i Iceland what is noon?
Still when the sun it at it's peak. Even in places beyond the (an)arctic circle(s), the sun does move up and down in the sky over a 24 hour-period, even when it doesn't go below/above the horizon for many months. (Tho, it might move left to right "more" on many of those days.)
The peak of not at all in the sky? Either way your noon is whatever you want it to be. It is your body trying why do you care what they call it?
My point is length of day changes, and people will get up later/earlier depending on how they want to deal with or feel about it.
I find this so insane that people think there should be a "noon" when the way that feels to then is very different depending on where they live.
You want to slap noon on a particular time, feel free. It's an arbitrary label. Nothing more.
Yes, it gets closer / further from the horizon, even when it is not above the horizon.
But, it always has a midpoint: noon.
Yeah, but it's meaningless, full darkness or full daylight how the fuck would you know?
Anyways:
Places farther east in a time zone reach solar noon earlier and places farther west in a time zone reach solar noon later.
It can be 20 to 40 minutes different even if you think solar noon is somehow important (hint it isn't, you decide what a 24 hour cycle is to you).
I hate these stupid arguments. Reminds me that most people are just stupid. It does not matter what time it is or where the sun is in the sky except to you because it's relative, meaning that it's meaning is different to everyone, so the labels we apply don't really matter.
Firstly, it's not like that all year around, and your internal clock will stay synced to solar time with some minor disruption.
Secondly, even in full daylight, the size of shadows can be sensed, and at such low angles even a small change in degrees results in large length differences. Full darkness is harder to find noon in, but full darkness is around for remarkably few days even at the poles. More frequently you can locate the peak of a "pre-dawn glow" even tho the sun itself is never visible over even the flattest of horizons.
Yeah, my timezone is about 15 minutes off of my solar noon. I see timezones as an acceptable compromise, though I'd prefer we did without them. I particularly dislike timezones that are so wide that in some parts of the zone are more than an hour off solar noon, and if there was a proposal to fix that I'd support it.
It does. There are various bodily rhythms and light sensitivities that for most people there's a benefit to centering the time used on the solar day.