SlAvA UkrAnI!
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Russia is clearly after the Donbass, not all of Ukraine. Elections will persist even after the almost certain conclusion, that being full annexing of the 4 oblasts. This is the sensible outcome, considering western Ukraine coup'd the president supported by the Donbass region in a Banderite takeover:
Since the Banderite coup in 2014, Ukraine has been in a civil war where Kiev has been ethnically cleansing the Donbass region. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by Ukraine and the west, meaning diplomatic solutions to the Civil War were tried, and failed.
If Russia is clearly only after Donbass, why did they open by trying to seize the capital?
They didn't seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.
If it is so, why are they bombing and loosing personnel in Sumy or Kharkiv?
Do you think in war you only attack what you directly plan on taking?
Are you referring to Kiev shelling civilians in the Donbass region for 8 years, prompting Russia's entry into the war? Also, no clue why you're calling me Mr. Gorsky, are you accusing me of being Russian just because I think the people in Donetsk and Luhansk are human?
On April 12th 2014, a Russian citizen and FSB undercover officer Igor Strelkov led a group of Russian soldiers to take over Slov'yansk. Before that he was participating in annexation of Crimea which also leg to killings and torture of Ukrainian and Crimean tatar civilians and activists. He was later supported by regular Russian troops.
Since 2022 Russian aggression destroyed hundreds of cities and towns, including but not limited to Bakhmut, Mariupol, Avdiivka, Vuhledar, Soledar, Popasna. They forced mobilisation of local civilians which lead to death of est. 20-25 thousands of forcefully mobilized civilians. How about morning them and not a fantasy of a report you can't comprehend starting from the opening.
I'm aware that the UN report tries to blamw Russia for Kiev killing civilians and separatists, but it's still nice to see them admit that Kiev was massacring civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk. The west coup'd the democratically elected president, and installed a Banderite government. It's no surprise that they'd be seceded from and that this gov would then try to force these same people they've ethnically repressed back into Ukraine.
You literally ignore part where UN and Hirkin/Strelkov point to Russian aggression, you muppet
No, I didn't. You seem awfully content to ignore that Kiev was caught killing thousands of civilians.
Ok, earlier you started that Russia is willing to take only Donbass. Is Zaporizhzha and Kherson a part of it?
I've already answered, though. Russia is working on wearing down Ukraine's arms and forces in a war of attrition, spreading them thinner and thinner and advancing slowly and thoroughly.
Show me where you answered the specific question please. Is Kherson and Zaporizhzha part of Donbass?
I quite literally answered it in the same comment you're replying to:
War is not "take XYZ land and then you've got it," it's a battle between two powers. Even if your goal is to annex certain territory, in this case the four Oblasts that Russia has made clear it intends in taking, taking land outside of the four Oblasts weakens Ukraine's ability to launch counteroffensives and stage troops. It does not mean Russia will keep every bit of land they take. Further, it also gives Russia leverage in treaties.
This is incredibly simple and I'm astounded that you're making me repeat this in ever-simpler terms.
Jesus, that's some denialism. Yes or no is a simple answer yet you go at chatgp lengths to avoid it.
What? I answered you numerous times, directly, in ever-simpler terms. That's not "chatGPT length," it's a single paragraph of explanation.
I'll dumb it down for you. The question you are asked is a yes/no type of question.
The question is: Is Zaporizhzha and Kherson part of Donbass.
You have choice:
If you only can show where you gave one of those answers, I will concede. Not your strategic vision of how to wage a genocidal war, just a single question.
They are usually considered to be in the Donbass region, yes. Your question has no relevance beyond the context of Russia's strategy, don't play ignorant.
?? Even amnesty has noted that Russia is the ones to make civilian escape corridors from areas under siege, while Ukraine shells them.
What western propaganda does to an MF. Get out of the echo chamber.
I think I've discovered a nest of illiteracy and poor comprehension skills. Amazing.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/03/ukraine-humanitarian-corridors-for-civilians-fleeing-russian-attacks-must-provide-safety-new-testimonies/
Leverage my man
And you think Russia would have just traded it back for Donbass? Lol. Lmao, even.
No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. "Trade it for the Donbas" what are you nine?
My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn't have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn't really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia's war of conquest.
This is you deciding what you want to be true in the face of all evidence to the contrary to preserve the very simplistic good guys/bad guys narrative you prefer.
lmao okay
If Russia is clearly only after the Donbass, why did it try to quickly force an end to the war before thousands of people died and a bunch of infrastructure was destroyed? Truly a conundrum.